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	<title>Comments on: Pink Slips handed out at the Gargoyle Leader today</title>
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		<title>By: John2</title>
		<link>http://www.southdacola.com/blog/2009/07/pink-slips-handed-out-at-the-gargoyle-leader-today/comment-page-1/#comment-21549</link>
		<dc:creator>John2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 21:23:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The paper is dead. It just doesn&#039;t know it yet.

Read the last paragraph and read up on other dead business models which are enjoying a stay of their funerals.

http://features.csmonitor.com/innovation/2009/07/13/morgan-stanley-intern-disses-twitter-shakes-up-industry/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The paper is dead. It just doesn&#8217;t know it yet.</p>
<p>Read the last paragraph and read up on other dead business models which are enjoying a stay of their funerals.</p>
<p><a href="http://features.csmonitor.com/innovation/2009/07/13/morgan-stanley-intern-disses-twitter-shakes-up-industry/" rel="nofollow">http://features.csmonitor.com/innovation/2009/07/13/morgan-stanley-intern-disses-twitter-shakes-up-industry/</a></p>
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		<title>By: l3wis</title>
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		<dc:creator>l3wis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 14:07:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill- seems to be a trend. I know Warren recently cancelled his subsciption.

Red- The AL used to have a food editor, and he was really good, and funny, Doug Chapman. He used to own a 4-star restaurant in Boston, but moved to SF to be closer to his elderly mother. He was right on with his reviews, but so many restaurants complained about him that the AL stopped using him (he was freelance). I wish I could find an archive of his columns. He wrote this one about a girl making his chocolate shake with a fork, and the way he wrote it, I just about pissed my pants laughing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill- seems to be a trend. I know Warren recently cancelled his subsciption.</p>
<p>Red- The AL used to have a food editor, and he was really good, and funny, Doug Chapman. He used to own a 4-star restaurant in Boston, but moved to SF to be closer to his elderly mother. He was right on with his reviews, but so many restaurants complained about him that the AL stopped using him (he was freelance). I wish I could find an archive of his columns. He wrote this one about a girl making his chocolate shake with a fork, and the way he wrote it, I just about pissed my pants laughing.</p>
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		<title>By: William J Reynolds</title>
		<link>http://www.southdacola.com/blog/2009/07/pink-slips-handed-out-at-the-gargoyle-leader-today/comment-page-1/#comment-21497</link>
		<dc:creator>William J Reynolds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 13:02:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just remember to always smile as you drive through the intersection of 10th and Minnesota, in case your photo is being taken.

Or skip that intersection. It doesn&#039;t bother me, but I know plenty of people who have altered their route just to avoid the camera. When you think about it, you can get almost anywhere via an alternate route.

In re the Argus Misleader: Increasingly irrelevant, a melange of tabloid celebrity gossip, gee-whiz local features (do they actually TRY to find the least flattering photos to put on the cover of the Life section?), and days-old &quot;news.&quot; Every time the invoice comes we ask each other whether we want to renew. One of these days the answer will be no.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just remember to always smile as you drive through the intersection of 10th and Minnesota, in case your photo is being taken.</p>
<p>Or skip that intersection. It doesn&#8217;t bother me, but I know plenty of people who have altered their route just to avoid the camera. When you think about it, you can get almost anywhere via an alternate route.</p>
<p>In re the Argus Misleader: Increasingly irrelevant, a melange of tabloid celebrity gossip, gee-whiz local features (do they actually TRY to find the least flattering photos to put on the cover of the Life section?), and days-old &#8220;news.&#8221; Every time the invoice comes we ask each other whether we want to renew. One of these days the answer will be no.</p>
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		<title>By: redhatterb</title>
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		<dc:creator>redhatterb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 00:44:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The &quot;food editor&quot; that the Argus has might have more credibility if they only had one, but it seems like every time I decide to read a food review there is a different byline  on it.  I always thought the food editor should be more or less an expert,  not just any employee.

As far as letters to the editor go, I do think they have their favorite contributors and topics.  Anytime that I used to write a letter to the editor, if it was a few words beyond the 200 limit, it would be returned to me, but I see many letters that are obviously considerably longer than the 200 word limit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#8220;food editor&#8221; that the Argus has might have more credibility if they only had one, but it seems like every time I decide to read a food review there is a different byline  on it.  I always thought the food editor should be more or less an expert,  not just any employee.</p>
<p>As far as letters to the editor go, I do think they have their favorite contributors and topics.  Anytime that I used to write a letter to the editor, if it was a few words beyond the 200 limit, it would be returned to me, but I see many letters that are obviously considerably longer than the 200 word limit.</p>
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		<title>By: Warren Phear</title>
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		<dc:creator>Warren Phear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 22:28:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Costner says: 
July 11th, 2009 at 1:32 pm 

&quot;Some people just need to get the hell over it. I have the same amount of sympathy for those who ran that red light as I do for those who park in a no parking zone or in front of a expired meter… which is exactly none.&quot;
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Blatantly running a red light is one thing. A thing I will NEVER be caught doing. On the other hand, manipulating the timing of controlled intersection lights is another. When the 2002 traffic study was complete our city&#039;s controlled interesections were made MUCH more unsafe. When you live in a city where the &quot;acceptable&quot; speed limit on major arteries is 10 to 15 MPH faster than posted limits, lowering the yellow times by a half second only causes major indecisions and an influx of red light running.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Costner says:<br />
July 11th, 2009 at 1:32 pm </p>
<p>&#8220;Some people just need to get the hell over it. I have the same amount of sympathy for those who ran that red light as I do for those who park in a no parking zone or in front of a expired meter… which is exactly none.&#8221;<br />
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<p>Blatantly running a red light is one thing. A thing I will NEVER be caught doing. On the other hand, manipulating the timing of controlled intersection lights is another. When the 2002 traffic study was complete our city&#8217;s controlled interesections were made MUCH more unsafe. When you live in a city where the &#8220;acceptable&#8221; speed limit on major arteries is 10 to 15 MPH faster than posted limits, lowering the yellow times by a half second only causes major indecisions and an influx of red light running.</p>
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		<title>By: Costner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Costner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 20:32:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The cameras that have been removed in other states or found to be illegal aren&#039;t the same as those in SF.  In other states they were treating the violation as a criminal issue as if you were caught speeding or running a stop sign, so it went on your driving record.

Here in SF, and in many other areas that use red light cameras, the offense is civil in nature and not tied to a specific driver.  Instead it is tied to the vehicle just like a parking ticket is.

Some people just need to get the hell over it.  I have the same amount of sympathy for those who ran that red light as I do for those who park in a no parking zone or in front of a expired meter... which is exactly none.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The cameras that have been removed in other states or found to be illegal aren&#8217;t the same as those in SF.  In other states they were treating the violation as a criminal issue as if you were caught speeding or running a stop sign, so it went on your driving record.</p>
<p>Here in SF, and in many other areas that use red light cameras, the offense is civil in nature and not tied to a specific driver.  Instead it is tied to the vehicle just like a parking ticket is.</p>
<p>Some people just need to get the hell over it.  I have the same amount of sympathy for those who ran that red light as I do for those who park in a no parking zone or in front of a expired meter&#8230; which is exactly none.</p>
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		<title>By: Plaintiff Guy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Plaintiff Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 20:06:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My understanding is that case is ongoing.  Cameras have lost in at least 5 other states.  The cities tactics are delay, obstruct, and wear them out.  I&#039;ve talked with Mr. Weidemeyer and respect what he and his class is/are doing.  Once the city is forced to observe constitutional law, his case and others will be a problem liability for this city&#039;s kingdom.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My understanding is that case is ongoing.  Cameras have lost in at least 5 other states.  The cities tactics are delay, obstruct, and wear them out.  I&#8217;ve talked with Mr. Weidemeyer and respect what he and his class is/are doing.  Once the city is forced to observe constitutional law, his case and others will be a problem liability for this city&#8217;s kingdom.</p>
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		<title>By: Warren Phear</title>
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		<dc:creator>Warren Phear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 02:24:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Plaintiff Guy says: 
July 10th, 2009 at 9:34 am 
If they close, the city could remove the traffic ticket camera at that corner. It was Argus and city collaboration. 




Not so sure about that. But it is a SURE FACT the city manipulated the timing of city lights to usher in big brother at that corner. Why I. L. Weidemeyer and his lawyer have never approached it from that angle is a beyond me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Plaintiff Guy says:<br />
July 10th, 2009 at 9:34 am<br />
If they close, the city could remove the traffic ticket camera at that corner. It was Argus and city collaboration. </p>
<p>Not so sure about that. But it is a SURE FACT the city manipulated the timing of city lights to usher in big brother at that corner. Why I. L. Weidemeyer and his lawyer have never approached it from that angle is a beyond me.</p>
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		<title>By: Plaintiff Guy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Plaintiff Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 22:12:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well put.  I hope Argus employees see the writing on the wall and are looking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well put.  I hope Argus employees see the writing on the wall and are looking.</p>
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		<title>By: Costner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Costner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 21:23:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for clarifying Captain Obvious.

As to the layoffs, Beck can blame this on the economy all day long but that doesn&#039;t make it true.  Like it or not newspapers are a dying form of media.  People aren&#039;t willing to wait until the next morning to read their news these days - they want it within minutes.

Advertising revenues are down because companies know readership is down.  Then the paper decides to cut content or raise prices to compensate and it results in even few readers which in turn results is companies spending fewer advertising dollars with them.

I don&#039;t really think this is a content issue since the basic core of the AL hasn&#039;t changed in decades.  Oh sure they try to reinvent themselves from time to time by adding this feature or changing that feature - but the core remains, and the core is the problem.

Reducing the physical size of the paper or making the decision to reorganize the sections or replacing comic strip A with comic strip B or making the call to focus upon Sioux Falls rather than South Dakota is all fine and dandy but it isn&#039;t enough to make it a long term viable product.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for clarifying Captain Obvious.</p>
<p>As to the layoffs, Beck can blame this on the economy all day long but that doesn&#8217;t make it true.  Like it or not newspapers are a dying form of media.  People aren&#8217;t willing to wait until the next morning to read their news these days &#8211; they want it within minutes.</p>
<p>Advertising revenues are down because companies know readership is down.  Then the paper decides to cut content or raise prices to compensate and it results in even few readers which in turn results is companies spending fewer advertising dollars with them.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t really think this is a content issue since the basic core of the AL hasn&#8217;t changed in decades.  Oh sure they try to reinvent themselves from time to time by adding this feature or changing that feature &#8211; but the core remains, and the core is the problem.</p>
<p>Reducing the physical size of the paper or making the decision to reorganize the sections or replacing comic strip A with comic strip B or making the call to focus upon Sioux Falls rather than South Dakota is all fine and dandy but it isn&#8217;t enough to make it a long term viable product.</p>
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