15 Thoughts on “I guess it wouldn’t be another presidency without a new middle-east country to bomb

  1. Ol' Timer on March 20, 2011 at 9:21 am said:

    No shit, when the hell are we going to worry about the homeless, the students, the seniors, the low wages, military benefits, the poverty in our inner cities and reservations. Instead all worry about is the freaking oil in the middle east and the greedy bastards in the US that is making tons of money of it.

    What is the correct spelling for lobbyist, politician, and DC? GREED

    Oh by the way did you see this one on NOem? This came from a major SD newspaper who only 5 months ago endorsed her.

    http://www.rapidcityjournal.com/news/opinion/editorial/article_f3ced792-4aa1-11e0-8a82-001cc4c002e0.html

  2. It’s really sad that the best coverage of this new war is on al jazeera.

  3. Helga on March 20, 2011 at 4:19 pm said:

    I would like to see Kadaffy gone but couldn’t some else do it?
    Saw Snooki’s vote, she voted yes before she voted no or something like that. What a laugh. She also voted NO on PBS. A sin in my book.

    I really like Aljazeera also. It streams along with Japan TV but also one of our digital PBS stations carries it, plus Russian news. Russian news might be a little like Fox news.

    http://english.aljazeera.net/watch_now/
    http://www.ustream.tv/channel/nhk-world-tv

  4. Pathloss on March 20, 2011 at 6:20 pm said:

    There’s a strong coalition and arab countries are on board. Qadaffi is killing the populace. They can take control of their nation given a fair advantage. The plan is organized and strategic. First, take out air defense. Next, bomb runways so they’re unusable. I’m impressed with french, italian, and english participation. We initiated but must let NATO oversee. No boots on the ground but certainly technology and air support participation.

  5. I don’t understand why we have to stick our noses in every country’s affairs. Let them fight their own civil wars, like we did way back when.

  6. l3wis on March 20, 2011 at 7:51 pm said:

    Because, Joan, defense contractors needs our monies!

  7. rufusx on March 20, 2011 at 10:42 pm said:

    England and France were both at times on the verge of intervening in the US Civil War. Both favored the South. Only deft diplomacy by the North prevented it.

  8. Costner on March 21, 2011 at 7:34 am said:

    “All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.”

    If you are more concerned about the money it takes to fire a few missiles or think this is about oil shame on you. This is an example of standing up to a man instead of allowing him to slaughter innocent civilians who are merely speaking their minds. What type of nation would we be if we stood back and just watched from the sidelines?

    You cannot compare this to a civil war that pitted man against man with roughly equal levels of firepower. Libya is putting a 21st century military with tanks, jets, and weaponry against citizens who are either unarmed or who have random small arms and the occasional piece of military hardware stolen from the opposition.

    I don’t want to see us engage in a war any more than the next person, but I also can’t justify us remaining silent when we know such an injustice is occurring. Frankly we are guilty of remaining silent far too often when such oppression has occurred.

  9. Just like Iraq, there is other ways of ridding ourselves of a dictator besides dropping bombs.

  10. Costner on March 21, 2011 at 1:24 pm said:

    Yes that is true… but the International community doesn’t generally care when you blow up infrastucture or bomb military targets. One assassination attempt and they get all in a hussy.

    Not sure in this case as I don’t know all the detail, but maybe lopping off the head of the snake wouldn’t solve the issue anyway. It may be more effective to incapacitate him so the citizens have a fair chance at true citizen-led revolt.

    One thing is for certain…. you just have to love social media. Ten years ago this type of thing would be unheared of or it would have been quashed almost immediately. With the advent of ‘the Internets’, facebook, twitter et al, we are witnessing changes throughout our world that previous generations could only dream of.

    I heard a comment the other day that really made sense. It was something to the effect of terrorists have been trying to spur change for decades with little to no result. Citizens try to spur change via twitter in hours and it results in leaders resigning within days. That is progress.

  11. Angry Guy on March 21, 2011 at 2:50 pm said:

    Nope. Not about oil at all. Totally just a coincidence that Libya has the largest reserves in Africa. We’d do the same thing in, say, Sierra Leone or the Congo if atrocities were being committed against civilians.

  12. Costner on March 21, 2011 at 3:15 pm said:

    AG… Libya has maybe 1% of worldwide oil production on their best day. We actually produce much more domestically than they have ever been able to provide us, so I’m not buying the oil argument.

    Yes atraocities are being carried out elsewhere, but in most cases it isn’t nearly as clear cut as to who is committing them. It isn’t just a few mad men using their positions of power but more similar to a civil war where genocide is a normal occurance. I wish we could do more there too, but not sure how you address it without engaging in a full out ground war and assault where you occupy the nation for the next decade or two. It isn’t like you could drop a few bombs or send in a few missiles and have any lasting effect.

  13. l3wis on March 21, 2011 at 7:56 pm said:

    I was talking about diplomacy. But you guys can continue to talk about oil and cutting off heads.

  14. Costner on March 21, 2011 at 8:35 pm said:

    Yea… diplomacy has worked so well in North Korea, Libya, Iran etc for the last several decades.

    Damn – I wonder why our state department has never thought of such an idea. You sir are a visionary.

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