UPDATED: Snowgates in Sioux Falls. Let’s just test them again.

UPDATED: I see the AL had to write a follow-up editorial to snow gates just one day after I initially posted this;

Snowgates are popular and many people want them. Others think it is a silly use of taxpayer money.

There’s no justification at this point to add, except that people love snowgates. Public policy and budgeting need to be based on more than what we want. We need to make those decisions based on what makes sense.

LMFAO!

Why change things now? Was a new EC a want or a need? How about Jr. Football fields?

You know who is ‘silly’? The editorial staff of the Argus Leader. While you praise monkey spas and indoor hockey and event centers, when the city is actually providing a service for taxpayers, it is ‘SILLY’ and too expensive. But a heated floor for Rhinos? That sounds like a perfect project to spend our tax dollars on.

And you sit around in meetings for hours on end, wondering why your newspaper subscriptions are in the toilet, because you don’t have a freaking clue who your subscribers are.

I don’t know whether to feel sorry for you, or just laugh it off. I’m laughing today.

Last month, the mayor of our great city left me a long voicemail about all things Mike Huether. Let me summarize it, and leave out the arm waving and good folks of SF,

“If you have a question about something, just ask me.”

Ok. I concede.

So I have been throwing things his way (still haven’t asked him his chicken salad recipe – I am a chicken salad fanatic) but I did ask him about snowgates.

Dean Borchardt, from the department of snow gate testing, I guess, sent me this email;

The 2011-2012 snow gate summary memo has been added to the City of Sioux Falls website at the following link:  http://www.siouxfalls.org/public-works/street-fleet/snow/snow-gate-analysis-pg.aspx.  I have also attached a copy of the original memo as Director Cotter requested.  We are currently on the August 21st, 4 pm City Council Informational agenda to discuss snow gates.  Thank you for your interest.

Dean Borchardt

So I guess we are going to just keep testing these things until all the test areas include the whole damn city.

The funny part about snow gates is if you put these things on the ballot, it would pass in flying colors. I found this comment interesting in the statement linked above;

We have learned a large number of homeowners support the use of snow gates in the areas we have tested in the past two winter seasons.

Duh.

35 comments ↓

#1 C on 08.01.12 at 9:25 am

Try the chicken salad at Old Orchard Cafe @ The Avera Fitness Center, Yum IMO

#2 l3wis on 08.01.12 at 11:07 am

The best I have had so far is at ‘Lick your Spoon’ she puts grapes and craisins in it.

#3 cr on 08.01.12 at 3:14 pm

The City says……

We have learned a large number of homeowners support the use of snow gates in the areas we have tested in the past two winter seasons.

You only had to be at the “snowgate meeting” the City held at Morningside Community Center to understand that getting this passed with a public vote would not be too difficult!!!!

#4 Detroit Lewis on 08.01.12 at 3:37 pm

I have often concluded that is what will ultimately have to happen. This council isn’t interested in spending tax dollars on something that actually helps the ENTIRE citizenry. Just monkey spas and football fields.

#5 Joan on 08.01.12 at 7:56 pm

Meals on Wheels has a pretty good chicken salad. It isn’t real fancy, but being I’m not a fan of things like that I think it is quite good. Or maybe I’m just not as fussy in my old age. lol I also don’t know if they make it themselves or if it is ordered, ready made.

#6 rufusx on 08.01.12 at 9:57 pm

Best chicken salad I ever had (and I’m talking a salad here – not a sammichj spread) was at the Chinese restaurant in Rapid City on E. Omaha – waaayyyy back in the day when I lived in a tent about 12 miles down the the Spring Valley road one summer. Would hit Miner’s Camp on Saturday night and the Chinese place after (2:30 am ish) Of course – it (and its recipe) are long gone.

#7 Detroit Lewis on 08.01.12 at 10:26 pm

I used to go to this small C-Store on the West side of town in SF (15 years ago?) that had the best chicken salad. It had the standards in it, celery, mayo, relish, etc. but there was something about the chicken and texture. I asked the clerk one night, “It is obvious you make the saran wrapped chicken salad sandwiches here, but where do you get the chicken?” he says, “Oh, whatever fried and broasted chicken we have left from the day before we chop up and make it into chicken salad.”

#8 Pathloss on 08.03.12 at 9:03 am

Pic of snowplow depressing. Snowgates make sense so they’ll not be implemented by this tyrant. They’d happen on the hill but the rich hire us for their driveways and they’ll not make it easier. Pass on the mayor’s chicken salad recipe. To rich, undigestable, and with 4 years of constipation.

#9 Justin on 08.03.12 at 10:11 am

I don’t think anybody who wants to give $20 million back because they are sick of denny Sanford’s name should be confused with somebody that is able to determine what makes sense for the City.

Next time when Kermit pulls out the big guns and exposes the “gay agenda” voters will realise how scary it is. Not the gay agenda but how the patron saint of southdacola thinks he can win votes.

#10 l3wis on 08.03.12 at 11:22 am

Justin, you may be on to something. Maybe we could get Denny to put his name on all the snow gates?

Speaking of Kermit, he sure kicked De’s ass in the past election, didn’t he? I had to chuckle while reading an article about dollars spent on political advertising on our local TV stations. Knudson spent $22,000, while Kermit spent $1,000. Maybe we should have a real fiscal conservative like Kermit running our city.

#11 anominous on 08.03.12 at 1:35 pm

Sanford should just buy the god damned things so they can finally attract some decent quality doctors to come live here.

#12 Justin on 08.03.12 at 2:28 pm

Maybe knudson didn’t have any people working the phones for free calling people to say the other candidate is gay. How much can that cost?

#13 l3wis on 08.03.12 at 10:30 pm

Justin, I am confused. So are you against gay bashing or for it? I faintly remember I had to delete a post because you kept calling a combat war veteran a ‘bottom’ and accused him of being gay.

Knudson probably didn’t have any volunteers, she had to PAY almost everyone to help her, except the tone death Dems who went around collecting signatures for her.

Face it. Kermit kicked her ass because people know he is the only one who listens to citizens. He told me his phone has been ringing off the hook with citizens needing help.

You would have never got this from De-TV.

#14 Keytag on 08.04.12 at 11:39 am

Snow removeable budgeted for winter 2011-12 ? Where did those funds go? The funds not useded would pay for a lot of snow gates.

#15 Justin on 08.04.12 at 1:53 pm

So now pathloss is a combat veteran? Gee, I guess that means he has earned the respect needed to offset the idiotic hatred he spewed here…not. of course I didn’t know that and now that I do the only regret I have is that he didn’t have his typing fingers blown off.

Yes I believe when pathloss made outrageous comments on pressler I turned it back on him to see how he liked unfounded questioning of his sexuality. I guess the parallel was lost on you.

Bottom line is I will never, ever vote for Kermit Staggers and I think it is a crying shame he holds public office again after his actions.

#16 Justin on 08.04.12 at 2:36 pm

By the way, Larry Pressler is a combat veteran. I believe I showed the same amount of respect to Patheticloser as he did to Pressler.

#17 scott on 08.04.12 at 7:08 pm

How did this go from snow gates to Sanford to Larry Pressler?

#18 matt70 on 08.04.12 at 9:05 pm

The ONLY reason Staggers won office this time is because of Huether. A lot of people feel he is one of the few that will question City Hall. Staggers has a shelf life and will never be mayor. His role is to be a fly in the ointment.

#19 Detroit Lewis on 08.04.12 at 9:36 pm

“I think it is a crying shame he holds public office again after his actions.”

Justin? What actions? You keep bringing up the same old volunteer who decided to make statements about Huether, which is only hearsay, but I am giving you the benefit of the doubt, and I believe one of them said that, but it wasn’t Kermit.

You are one of the dumbest commenters I have ever had on my site. That’s why I continue to let you come on here, because your statements are sooo f’ing stupid, they are laughable.

#20 Justin on 08.04.12 at 9:41 pm

Ad hominem is the mark of a bad debater.

Frankly I wouldn’t post here at all if I didn’t think you were the dumbest blogger in the city. This type of response is par for the course.

If you want the 5 guys you have coffee with to be the only ones that read this, you are doing the right thing.

If Kermit wants to come out and defend himself, let’s hear it. If he doesn’t, he will always be known as Kermit “gay agenda” Staggers in my book.

#21 Detroit Lewis on 08.04.12 at 9:44 pm

Being for or against a candidate on one issue makes you one of the dumbest voters of all time, especially on an issue that is pretty much a rumor coming from an ANON commenter like yourself.

If you really wanted myself to take you seriously, use your real name. But that would be ‘gay’ wouldn’t it?

#22 Justin on 08.04.12 at 9:50 pm

Was it only from an anonymous commenter? NO.

It was reported in the Argus Leader.

And to hear YOU say that anybody worried about one issue only is “dumb” takes the cake.

If you want to play journalist, you are going to have to have a thicker skin when somebody calls you out for saying something patently stupid.

#23 l3wis on 08.04.12 at 9:56 pm

Give me a link to the story or email me a scan of the story. Now, I really don’t believe you.

#24 Justin on 08.04.12 at 9:57 pm

Jonathan Ellis wrote it the day after the election. You go pay for the article yourself.

#25 l3wis on 08.04.12 at 10:02 pm

Thanks. So I guess it wasn’t true.

#26 Justin on 08.04.12 at 10:03 pm

Journalism at its best:

“The funny part about it is that Kermit would probably get an EC built during his administration, and it would be the greatest example of private/public partnership this city has ever seen.” http://www.southdacola.com/blog/2010/03/kermit-staggers-the-argus-leader-interview/

You aren’t going to gain any credibility being this obvious of a shill.

#27 l3wis on 08.04.12 at 10:06 pm

Hey, thanks for pulling this comment up. Whatever happened to the 25% corporate sponsorship Huether promised us to build the EC. Oh, just another lie by Mike.

#28 Justin on 08.04.12 at 10:09 pm

You really haven’t read any of the public documents, have you? I guess going to all the council meetings doesn’t make one informed.

#29 l3wis on 08.04.12 at 10:16 pm

Which one tells us about the 25% corporate sponsorship to build the facility? Could you point it to us? Everything I have read says we (the taxpayers) are bonding the entire amount to build the facility.

#30 Justin on 08.04.12 at 10:22 pm

Exactly.

You are the one that needs to quote a source, not me. I’m quoting the public information.

And yet we got 20 million. Which is more than your favorite unknown naming rights agent claimed they could get.

#31 l3wis on 08.04.12 at 10:27 pm

No. We got $750,000 a year for the next 25 years that will go against subsidizing the operations of the building. And a one-time $2 million dollar donation towards a scoreboard. Otherwise, taxpayers are footing the bill of $180 Million + to build the facility. Not one single corporation in SF has come forward to help pay for building the place, this was the mayor’s promise.

#32 Justin on 08.04.12 at 10:33 pm

Where is the source of these “lies”?

It isn’t anywhere in public documents that I can find.

Let’s just say for a minute that the $750,000 is correct, which would imply that the endowment earns 0%, how is that a negative for you? You know, the guy that is so worried about “subsidizing” the EC (except that you are completely for the subsidy if it would have been built in your neighborhod).

#33 Justin on 08.04.12 at 10:43 pm

I forgot, you are also for the EC if Kermit Staggers would have been mayor. I shouldn’t forget that.

#34 l3wis on 08.04.12 at 11:20 pm

I would have voted against the EC whether it was DT or at the Arena site. I just don’t think we need it.

#35 Justin on 08.04.12 at 11:54 pm

so you wouldn’t have voted for “the greatest example of a private/public partnership this city has ever seen”?

I don’t know why you are so burned that it isn’t in your neighborhood if you would never support it anyway.

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