Steve has been on fire lately with his FB comments. The other day he had some scathing remarks in reference to minimum wage when he met the governor at his restaurant, today he had this to say;

Dear Governor Daugaard:

You told me on Friday that you don’t believe in the minimum wage and that you believe a market approach is the way to go. I’ve told a lot of people about that and we’ve concluded that politicians should get paid on a market approach too – you know, on how much you are needed. In today’s world, you aren’t worth much. You cause more problems than you solve, so instead of paying you our hard earned tax dollars, we think you all owe us money. That’s what the market bears in today’s political environment.

I’ll be waiting for my check.

Steve H.

I’m guessing he owes us a lot of money! I’m guessing Thune and Noem probably owe us more.

 

14 Thoughts on “Steve Hildebrand asks Governor Daugaard to pay us back.

  1. I may have missed it and if I did my apologies but have either Steve H. or Rick W. every stated what hourly wage they pay their kitchen staff and their wait staff?

    Perhaps they could champion their positions on the minimum wage issue for the good folks that labor in their trenches at say $15 to $18 an hour for starters? And of course based on a 40 hour work week.

  2. duggersd on November 10, 2014 at 6:19 am said:

    It is funny how liberals do not understand market forces. Perhaps Mr. Hildebrand should run for office and solve all of those “problems” caused by our governor. Wait! There was someone who ran against him and lost in a landslide. I don’t suppose this was the same person Mr. Hildebrand voted for? I dare Mr. Hildebrand to go out and find a full time job that pays less than $8.50/hr. He will find it very difficult, except perhaps in the restaurant business. Market forces have pushed wages above that magical number. Now the people who hire kids will be forced to pay more for their labor that is worth less than $8.50/hr. Do you really think they are going to settle for less in profits? I doubt it. They will either raise prices or close up shop because the market will not support those higher prices.

  3. keytag – yep – asked and answered by Steve H on his FB page. Josiah’s starting pay is $3.50-$5.00 over minimum depending on experience and position. What do you pay YOUR kitchen staff?

  4. dugger – Studies have found that approx. 1/6th of all jobs in SD pay the minimum wage. Go for it yourself.

  5. BTW – all you “fiscally conservative – small government” types do understand that if people make more money on their jobs – they will be LESS DEPENDENT on GIVERNMENT (your taxes) for support – right? THEN who will you turn your hater vision on?

  6. rufusx – thanks for the reply. if $3.50 – $5.00 over minimum is OK with Steve – why not $10 over minimum?
    It is my position that the owner of the business should have some say in how much he or she should / could pay their employees without that minimum being dictated by the state or federal government.
    As far as what I pay my kitchen staff ? I am pretty much it. I figure that I am worth at least $175.00 an hour but then I can’t afford to pay myself that much. So I settle for whatever I get.
    By the way— was there any comment from the folks at Parker’s Bistro?

  7. duggersd on November 10, 2014 at 8:57 pm said:

    rufux, let’s look at your studies. 1/6 of all jobs pay minimum wage? I doubt it. How many of those are full time? How many are part time? How many of those are jobs held by people who have several years of experience. How do you expect that increase of $1.25 will effect people who are currently making $8.50? Will that make it so that 13 of jobs pay minimum wage? Personally, I would be interested in seeing where your study comes from. The only way I can see it is if you are counting the tip based positions and not including the tips collect. Jimmy Johns was recently advertising position at $10/hr. Even Walmart starts around $9.50/hr for full time work. As a teacher, I talk to students who work outside of school. They report making over minimum wage, although they do not make $8.50/hr. Oh, and about your comment about being less dependent, um when jobs cost employers more, they have to increase their prices in order to cover the new costs. How does that help the poor? It only makes them just as poor at a higher income.

  8. Funny how all the people who were against this increase say ‘it wasn’t needed’ because people already make over minimum wage or it is just part-timers and doesn’t effect many workers. So if that is true, why do you care? If it is so few it should have NO effect on the SD Economy. So STFU.

  9. duggersd on November 11, 2014 at 1:16 pm said:

    Mr. STFU, why do I care? Why do you care if what I said is true? Let us say for a moment you own a business. You are paying your employees $8.75/hr. You have the luxury of not hiring people who do not have the skills you want for your business. On January 1, the people you used to eliminate will get paid $8.25/hr. What do you think your employees are going to expect? If you think they will expect anything less than $10.00/hr, you are somewhat less than attuned to human nature. You will have a choice, increase the wages you pay and hope you can recoup the difference in the increase in the price of your product you put out or go out of business. Sir, if you wish to have a civil discussion, then don’t tell people to STFU. If you are going to offer a forum, it seems to me being civil is one of the things you should do. People who tell others to STFU are usually people who know they are wrong and want to stifle the people they know are right.

  10. Well, dugger, it wasn’t just directed at you, but everyone like you that has made the same stupid f’ing arguments.

    The way I look at it is if you can’t at least pay your employees $8.25 an hour and make a profit, you have a piss poor business model. My suggestion would be to hire ‘BETTER’ trained employees, you could pay them more AND have less of them because they would do more work then ‘untrained’ teenagers. I love how everyone likes to talk about the free market system and capitalism being so great, but when they go out of business because they had a bad business plan, they want to blame the government. Go call a whaaabulance.

  11. dugger – Surely you’re not so naïve as to imagine that a job in Hayti – or any one of 300 other small towns in SD pays the same as in Sioux Falls – are you? How about how many job OPPORTUNITIES of any kind other to minimum wage paying there are in those small towns??? You know – where MOST SDns live.

  12. duggersd on November 11, 2014 at 5:41 pm said:

    l3wis, I only called you out on your STFU attitude. I know you have a history of jousting windmills. I also note that you fail to address the arguments but to make statements that have no basis in fact. Just who are you to believe you have the right to tell a business owner what he should pay? And just how do you set that $8.50? Why not $15/hr? Think of how much more money everyone will have. Why don’t you address the arguments rather than blather a bunch of nonsense. This is a tactic of one who knows he is wrong.
    rufusx, you fail to recognize that there are very few jobs that only pay minimum wage. And no, I am not so naive as to imagine a job in Hayti pays the same as SF. However a house does not cost the same either. Many people live in a small town and work in a larger town. And I really do not consider a minimum wage job as an opportunity except to use as a ladder to climb to a better paying job. Another thing, if you do not have the skills to get a job that pays more than minimum wage, why not get those skills? All increasing the minimum wage does in increase the cost of low skill labor and increase the cost of skilled labor which leads to increased costs to cover the new labor costs which puts the unskilled labor in the same boat they were before.

  13. Dugger…you’re a teacher? Mind if I ask where, so I can make sure anyone I know is NOT in your classroom. First off, you need to read this.

    http://www.dol.gov/minwage/mythbuster.htm

    Now, let these numbers soak in.

    There are 39,590 food prep jobs in this state. Entry level pay, or the tenth percentile salary is $7.78 an hour or less. We’re not talking waiters and waitresses here, that make a hell of a lot less, with tips, but just what it says. Of course, you think these 39,590 workers are just high school kids earning gas money. Wrong. Read the Dept. of Labor report again.

    Moving along. There are 16,480 building maintenance jobs in this state. Entry level pay, or the tenth percentile salary is $8.05 an hour or less.

    There are 15,290 retail sales clerks in this state. Entry level pay, or the tenth percentile pay is $8.12 an hour or less.

    There are 12,820 personal care jobs in this state. Entry level pay, or the tenth percentile pay is $8.04 an hour or less.

    There are 12,570 cashier jobs in the state. Entry level pay, or the tenth percentile pay is $7.92 an hour or less.

    I could go on and on and on, but I think you get the picture. There are thousands of jobs in this state, and this town, that pay less than the new minimum wage of $8.50 an hour. Maybe, just maybe this will help boost the overall starting salary of all 402,990 jobs in state to something over the poverty level pay that we now have of only $8.76 an hour. Hopefully, this will work its way up the scale to all working Joes who deserve at least a 10% raise over their current meager salaries. ALL working class people deserve a salary that keeps them above water.

  14. how much would you lower your prices if you didn’t have to pay workers keytag, or would that just put more money in YOUR pocket?

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