I moderate my comments on here and on KELO, so they go to my email first before I release them, but apparently that wasn’t fast enough for this guy, so he emailed to me.

Care to post the comment I submitted earlier today in rebuttal to your im11 cartoon or will that throw your left-wing agenda too far off course?

Another same old, same old argument from the anti-choice side:

The only thing wrong with Initiated Measure 11 is that is devalues the life of a child conceived of rape or incest.  By including exceptions in the initiated measure for rape and incest, it conveys the idea that a child has to be born of perfect health and perfect circumstance to be deemed worthy of life.

What most pro-choice supporters still don’t understand about most pro-life supporters is that we are not trying to make life difficult for the mother by denying her easy and open access to an abortion; rather, we are trying to preserve the right of the unborn child to have life.

If a mother does not want to keep a child born of rape or incest, there are plenty of organizations willing to help her (both financially and emotionally) to bring the child to full term and delivery so that the child can be adopted by someone who will appreciate the child regardless of the way in which it was conceived.

Rape and incest are horrible acts inflicted upon a mother.  The offenders, if identified, should be the locked up for life and made to pay for their offense.  The innocent unborn child however, should not be recipient of the punishment.  The child is innocent of the crime.

The mother is innocent of the crime as well.  She didn’t ask to be raped or victimized.  However, when she chooses to have an abortion rather than to carry her child to a full-term delivery, she falls into the cycle of abuse.  There is no healing from abuse.

If you look at a 2-year-old on the street, could you readily identify that child as being born of rape or incest if that was the case?  Would the child have a scarlet ‘R’ or ‘I’ emblazened on his or her forehead?  Of course not.  The child, in a nurturing environment, would be like any other 2-year-old.  Would anyone warrant the killing of that child once he or she was identified as a rape or incest kid?  Of course not.  Because, at 2-years-old, we can see that the child is a living breathing child with potential.  Back up two years to the birth of the same child.  He or she is lying in mom’s arms just after coming into the ‘outside’ world for the first time.  Eyes are open, purple skin is taking on color, there might even be a smile looking back at the strange yet familiar lady holding him or her.  Does that child have a scarlet ‘R’ or ‘I’ emblazened on his or her forehead?  Would anyone warrant the killing of that newborn child once he or she was identified as a rape or incest kid?  Of course not.

Back up four months previous to the birth of the same child.  He or she is lying in mom’s womb just waiting to arrive into this world.  He or she has no knowledge of having been conceived or rape or incest.  He or she has a beating heart just like a child conceived by a ‘normal’ married couple.  He or she has a brain just like that of a child conceived by ‘normal’ means.  The child is a whole living being complete with arms, legs, toes and fingers.  The child can distinguish mom’s voice from another and is near or at the point of viability if it were to arrive into the world a bit earlier than planned.

What’s the main difference between the child at 5 months old on the inside of mom’s womb vs the child just born into the world and lying in mom’s arms or in the arms of a loving adoptive parent…?

…one is going to have a chance at life while the other is about to have his or her body parts pulled out one by one by an abortion doctor who’s going to be $700 richer in about 15 minutes…

Scott M.

8 Thoughts on “Impatient Anti-choicer wants to be heard

  1. Angry Guy on October 31, 2008 at 11:17 am said:

    Oh puke.
    Seriously.
    What about that mother who has to carry around this constant reminder of the abuse that was inflicted upon her? The enduring feeling that this THING inside of her will someday grow up and not ever know that IT’s uncle/grandpa is also IT’s father. By trying to put a face and “soul” onto this fetus, you are forgetting about the person that WILL have to live with either decision that THEY make. My point is, it shouldn’t matter which decidion THEY make… as long as THEY are the ones making it. Measure 11 takes away the mother’s CHOICE in the matter.
    Also, Scott M., I assume you don’t actually have a uterus. Maybe you should consider that before you go around imposing your morals on anyone else’s reproductive systems.

  2. And BTW, she is aborting a rapist’s fertilized egg, not a child. Killing children is murder, I agree. But there is a difference.

    And it always concerns me when anti-choicers are more concerned about a rapist’s fertilized egg then they are about all the unwanted children already born. Did you know that a third of all Sioux Falls school district kids are on either FREE or reduced lunches? What are you doing to help them?

    Let’s feed and help the kids that are already on the earth, once we achieve that, then we can start worrying about rapist’s sperm.

  3. Ghost of Dude on October 31, 2008 at 1:03 pm said:

    This isn’t even a pro-choice/pro-life issue. It’s a constitutional issue. Both sides of the abortion debate get causght up in the philosophical debate about when life starts or when a fetus becomes a baby.
    The real problem here is IM11 itself. The bill is unconstitutional on its own, and probably violates federal law (HIPPA). It also will not prevent one single abortion from being done on any SD woman able to leave the state for a few hours. In fact, the bill itself provides for groups inside the state to assist women in leaving the state to get an abortion. If the bill didn’t allow this, it would be unenforceable and wouldn’t get even 20% of the vote.
    What it all boils down to is that it isn’t about exceptions for this or that, it isn’t about when human life begins. It’s about a really crappy piece of legislation that will cost us millions but provide nothing in return for the citizens (and fetuses) of this state.

  4. Angry Guy on October 31, 2008 at 1:16 pm said:

    I still think only women should get to vote on it. My penis should exclude me from the argument.

  5. AG – Thanks for the mental picture of your penis in argument with another penis (ick).

    GD – I never really thought about it that way, what would stop PP from referring women to the closest abortion provider outside of SD? Or even giving them a ride? The law wouldn’t prevent any of that.

    Mpls is only 4 hours away (or 3 1/2 if you ride with me).

  6. Angry Guy on October 31, 2008 at 2:51 pm said:

    Maybe PP could start up a Abort-mobile. An outreach program , if you will.

  7. On that note Angry Guy; is this f’ing election over yet?

    I love politics, but I growing weary. BTW, I think Johnny Roastbeef and I will be drinking blue martini’s Tuesday night, I need to pick up some blue caracau (sp?)

  8. Angry Guy on November 1, 2008 at 10:24 pm said:

    Weary and worried.
    What if they win? I don’t know if I can go on for 4 more years of the last 8 years.

    I’m not sure if I’ll heave clearance for the blue teenies. I’ll be there in spirit, and may Jesus have mercy on your hangovers.

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