This guy was responding to a post about how blue our country has become in voting, to be quite honest with you, I have no clue what he is talking about. In the words of the late great James Brown, Rama Lama, Fa, Fa, Fa.

I see that it appears this conversation is over, but if I must say, AND I MUST, if it weren’t for the “theocrats” you wouldn’t have the freedom to express what you are expressing now!! Our founders were mostly Christian, or at least acknowledged Christian values to be the best at governing a free people. Look at the “buddhist” countries. Look at the “Hindu” Countries. Look at the “Muslim” countries. And now look at the “Christian” countries (aka US, England, Spain, etc) Although not perfect, no country on earth can be, these countries are examples of the “free” world, aka “the Christian” world. You do not have to be Christian to agree that it is the best and ONLY religion that allows a free, civil society to exist. Thomas Jefferson, the one everyone likes to point to as the father of “separation of church and state” although this was taken entirely out of context, was most definitely not what we would consider Christian today, although he DID in fact carry a Bible, was the FIRST superintendent of Washington, DC schools. Guess what? He MADE THE CHRISTIAN BIBLE the PRIMARY textbook for ALL schoolchildren in DC. Don’t believe me? Look it up, but it might be hard to find, since so many liberal and communist historians in America have literally re-written our history!! ALL of our founders agreed that it is necessary for a people to fear a higher authority than government so that government does NOT have to be over our shoulders all of the time, and they believed Christianity to be the most BALANCED of religions to achieve this (and yes, most modern religions did also exist at that time). People who do not fear THE higher authority are more likely to commit crimes such as tax fraud, theft, and other crimes when the government can NOT see them. To date, there has been no other religion that has allowed a free country to exist as long as the United States has!!! However, these days are numbered. As we continue to allow things previously considered crimes or mental illnesses to openly be practiced, such as adultery, homosexuality, tax fraud, etc. to go free, we will have lawlessness (actually we already do) prevailing on the streets, and the United States as we know it will collapse (I would argue that it already has collapsed). Man, I could go on and on, and on. Did you know most of our founders lost EVERYTHING for the principle of freedom? They lost family fortunes, status, saw their wives and children sacrificed, literally murdered, by British troops, and the list goes on and on. Do you actually think Barack Obama would sacrifice all of that? I think John McCain would have, not that he was perfect or anything, because no man is. John McCain sacrificed six years of his life in HELL for YOU AND ME!!! And I know he would do it again. Everyone is thinking about their jobs and stuff nowadays, and sure, I am too, but that doesn’t mean I sacrifice unborn babies lives, the right to freely worship God in private or public, or the right to bear arms just so I can eat. Our founders, Thomas Jefferson included, would have a fit if they knew they sacrificed money, family and comfort for the future right of a country to elect a COMMUNIST president!!!

Which house do you think McCain would sacrifice first?

Franklin rejected Christianity to his death bed, you know, the guy who pretty much invented American free speech and dissention.


#1 Ghost of Dude on 02.09.09 at 7:49 am

The radical liberals who founded this country did so in spite of Christianity – and any other organized religion.
It was the idea that people should be free to determine their own future, not be born into a pre-determined system where they were judged by their father’s deeds.
It was the liberal thinking that came out of the age of reason that was responsible for the ideas that got this country started.

Also, just because Jefferson carried a bible and made it the official textbook of the DC schools doesn’t meant this is a Christian nation. Jefferson was a deist, and the bible was likely one of the only books a family would own. It was a pragmatic decision.

#2 l3wis on 02.09.09 at 7:53 am

My step grandma’s second husband was a Gideon. He would leave so many New Testament’s around our house we could have put them all together and made a couch.

#3 Braden on 02.09.09 at 9:14 am

That guy was so smart! Everyone knows that only Christian countries can be democracies. Just look at some of the largest democracies in the world: Japan, India, South Korea, Indonesia- all Christian.

Wait actually none of them are…

I’m not bashing Christianity, I’m Christian. But I also deal with things like facts and reality.

#4 l3wis on 02.09.09 at 9:32 am

I thought it was funny how he threw Buddism in with all the rest. One of the most peaceful religions on earth.

#5 Ghost of Dude on 02.09.09 at 10:47 am

Right there with you, man.

Selective historical ignorance is a powerful force.

What? You’ve never heard of all the Buddhist suicide bombers?
Actually, they’re more human torches than suicide bombers…

#6 l3wis on 02.09.09 at 12:30 pm

Zen bombers. They meditate so intensely they blow up cars thousands of miles away.