OPEN THREAD: Joker style


One interesting item for discussion is Obama’s chances at re-election and the dems chances to hold onto congress in 2010.  This guy discusses that, and his experience on Fox’s morning show:

There was just no pretense of trying to do anything even vaguely resembling the news. I’m not reflexively anti-FOX; in fact, I’d had a couple of good experiences last year on Shepherd Smith and on their business channel. But as for their morning program: Wow. I’ve never met people more terrified of what might happen if they actually tried to engage in a rational discussion.

Personally, I think the dems will be lucky to hold onto anything resembling their current margin in the house, and will almost certainly lose their 60-seat senate majority. But I still like Obama’s chances in 2012.



#1 Costner on 09.02.09 at 3:12 pm

Obama’s chance for re-election depends 100% upon who runs against him. If they put him against Palin, he will win by a landslide, but if they actually put up a real conservative rather than just a Republican campaigning as a conservative, I wouldn’t be willing to put money on Obama.

The 60 seat majority will evaporate, but the Dems will still hold the majority… meaning nothing will get done in Congress – and that is a good thing.

#2 Ghost of Dude on 09.02.09 at 3:17 pm

Costner – find a real conservative in the republican party who will vow not just to halt the growth of government, but actually shrink it, and you’ve got my vote. Social conservatives need not apply.

If Obama gets his way (which I doubt will happen) the time will be right for an actual conservative to hit it big.

But I have yet to hear of someone with any standing in the party who espouses those ideals. IMO, the party must be totally destroyed and rebuilt.

#3 Costner on 09.02.09 at 8:55 pm

I’m not sure he really qualifies as a Republican, but I’d like to hear a little more out of Michael Bloomberg. Admittedly I don’t know a ton about him, but the few times I’ve heard him speak I was impressed. He seems to have taken the best ideas from both parties and mixed in a little common sense.

What I’m really looking for is a fiscal conservative who will (like you said) shrink government while cutting the budget, eliminating the deficit, and reducing the national debt. If I could find that person who would also have a little social liberal buried inside I’d be all set.

…and then I woke up from my dream.

#4 Randall on 09.03.09 at 7:27 am

IF what they’re calling “Obamacare” passes – WITH a public option or better yet: single-payer…

It will be SO popular – as much so as is medicare and social security.

It will be another thirty years before the Republicans enjoy another majority in either the House or Senate.

AND Barack Obama will go down in history as one of the ten best presidents this country has ever had.

And the Republicans KNOW it…

And THAT’S why they are fighting so hard, desperately lying and spinning 24/7 on Fox “News” and elsewhere – to defeat it.

And that’s a sad commentary on the Republican party: that they have nothing to offer (except tax breaks for the rich). All they have is obstructionism, fear, and hate.

Just listen to the desperate lies of Beck, Limbaugh, Savage, O’Reilly, Hannity or any of the millionaire talking heads on Faux News.

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