Think people are curious about our state’s election?

The first number is the amount of hits I got yesterday, the second number is ‘individual’ computer users. It is almost 3x what I normally get. Looks like Noem is going to be a big star in the GOP.



16 comments ↓

#1 justin hansen on 11.04.10 at 10:00 am

Big star?

People check on their investments online.

I’m beyond embarrassed my home state elected a pageant winner who couldn’t be bothered to get her college degree because her government subsidies already meant she never had to work.

What a proud day for South Dakota!

#2 redhatterb on 11.04.10 at 6:19 pm

It isn’t as if she hasn’t had enough time to finish her education. You can’t tell me she has been so busy on the family farm all these years that she could’t drive a few miles to Brookings to attend class. If not in the day time there are night classes.

#3 l3wis on 11.04.10 at 8:05 pm

Why go back to school when the govt. will hand you subsidy checks?

#4 jeff on 11.05.10 at 6:35 pm

it’s too easy for you “uninformed” voters to understand the subsidy thing I know but I’ll try again. NO farmer wants a subsidy check if they could get a fair price for their products. The government and mega agribusiness have totally screwed it up for decades – but hey, at least you losers can afford your groceries. Especially ironic for union pussies like poly to bitch about. If noem’s subsidies are such a big deal then how much have you bitched about the herseth family subsidies? “Democratic Rep. Stephanie Herseth Sandlin’s father, former state lawmaker Ralph Lars Herseth, received $929,347 from 1995 to 2008. Herseth Sandlin said she has not directly benefited from her family’s subsidies.”
http://rapidcityjournal.com/article_06f31380-339a-11df-9677-001cc4c03286.html

Again, noem may end up just as big of government crook as steph. If she doesn’t produce in a couple years guess what? we have another election. thune, johnson, they need to go too but with our broken two party system no one even challenged thune lol. And who cares about noems education if she can do her job? oh that’s right – people of the “other” party have to have shit to bitch about. Y’all need to see the light and put the party bs behind.

#5 jeff on 11.05.10 at 6:53 pm

i wish you had an edit feature. sorry poly.

#6 Poly43 on 11.06.10 at 4:42 am

Sorry poly.

Why be sorry? You said what you felt. Nothin wrong with expressing your OPINION. But that’s all it is. Opinion. As for your opinion? I personally find a great deal of hypocrisy in a person and party that was swept into office on a promise of less government and less spending. Noem is a partner in the Racota Valley Ranch, which received $3 million plus in subsidies from 1995 to 2008, according to figures compiled by the Environmental Working Group, a nonprofit organization that collects and analyzes farm subsidy data. As of 2009, Noem had a 16.9 percent ownership stake in Racota Valley. Kinda hypocritical of her, and the tea party movement to back her isn’t it?

And SHS? Never cared for her much. Or Thune. Or Johnson. As far as I’m concerned, they are all in bed with their corporate handlers. For the longest time I stated here and elsewhere I would not vote for Steph but changed my mind when I took a closer look at the alternative.

As for me? You can call me a union puss all you want. It provided for me and my family. Truth be told, though I am retired now, I could have made it in the world with my skillset, union or not. The union just helped me be able to retire and enjoy life without having to work to the grave.

#7 jeff on 11.06.10 at 6:21 am

I hate the way gov. and agribusiness have formed a farm system that cannot operate like a business should. Then when people who don’t have a clue how it works complain about subsidies it gets frustrating. It makes a good talking point in an election with a farmer candidate. Facts are farmers do not have a choice in this. There’s total control by the government and agribusiness. Monsanto will soon rule the world.
Unions pissed me off many years ago when I worked in a union shop while a college student. As a part time employee I had better benefits than anyone I knew and was overpaid. So I felt I needed to work very hard and continually was told to decrease my production so I wouldn’t make the lazy look bad. I was promoted often – isn’t that how it should work? I continued to work hard and was threatened and had my vehicle vandalized in the parking lot. Unions had there place many years ago and may still in certain situations but have also done a lot of damage to our country. There’s been too much corruption and, like the ag conglomerates, are in bed with politicians.
Name calling detracts from a post so I need to take a breath and reread before clicking submit – thus the apology.

#8 Poly43 on 11.06.10 at 6:52 am

I had better benefits than anyone I knew and was overpaid. So I felt I needed to work very hard and continually was told to decrease my production so I wouldn’t make the lazy look bad. I was promoted often – isn’t that how it should work? I continued to work hard and was threatened

In thirty years of being around union shops I can say this does happen, but very rarely. It happened to me. In fact, I opted out of the union once for just this reason. BUT…it happens rarely and after a long introspection decided I was better off paying my dues for the vast majority who do not engage in this type of activity.

As for better benefits? Had that, but could have had more, even non union, had I used my training in other states. I was born here, as was my wife, and we chose not to leave. Anyway, nothin wrong with havin a job in SF that actually pays a living wage.

#9 Poly43 on 11.06.10 at 6:58 am

Facts are farmers do not have a choice in this.

Help me understand this concept, cuz frankly I don’t get it. Nobody twisted the Racota Valley business model into accepting over 3 million in pork.

#10 jeff on 11.06.10 at 8:18 am

Did someone twist Lars operation? Yes to both. Do some research. If it costs more to produce your product than you can sell it for you will not be in business long. With the size of many of todays farms 1 and 3 $M is not much. Those are part of the operating costs not profit. While it would be enough for someone to retire nicely on or seem like a lot of money from most perspectives, it’s not a large percent of a several thousand acre operation.

Here’s a project for you. Google “revolving door”. Check out who goes from bureaucracies like the usda, fda, epa, etc. to top positions in corps. like monsanto and back and forth. “open secrets” might be one of the less biased sites but there are many – most with food safety in mind but many just exposing the, what should be criminal, practices. It is sickening. Have your “barf bag” ready.

#11 Poly43 on 11.06.10 at 10:03 am

If it costs more to produce your product than you can sell it for you will not be in business long.

So we bail em out with subsidies and other pork like we did for banks, airlines and the auto industry? Seems to me that is what we (you) are sending Kristi to Washington to end, not promote. We’ll soon find out which side of the “bringin home the pork” formula she is on.

The Racola Valley operation has several thousand acres of land. How much of that land is tilled? How much is simply sitting idle while gathering subsidies to do just that? Must be nice to “farm” property that is used as a canned hunting operation where you gather “subsidies” on the one hand, and use that money to buy penned raised pheasants for $5 a bird and sell em for $40 a bird. And that does not include the $1000 a “hunter” it costs for the priviledge of hunting there.

#12 jeff on 11.06.10 at 10:21 am

now i remember why debating with you is unproductive most of the time. too partisan. when it’s an R the subsidy recipients are welfare farmers but hersteths don’t get a mention. I don’t give a shit about r’s or d’s anymore.
I know there’s abuse of farm programs and I can’t say if noem’s one of them.
The hunting thing is valid only to a point. then it becomes a diversion. When a business opportunity is presented most people will take it if they are capable. You sound jealous sometimes when bitching about someone making money. Developing and running a hunting operation takes a lot of work and skill too even if it’s a business you and I don’t approve of.
Answer your own question for me because I don’t know. How much of their land is tilled or grazed? a percentage would be nice.
Then what about the herseth operation? How much of their land is tilled? Why didn’t he decline his million? He doesn’t even have a hunting operation that I’m awatre of.
Do any research on the revolving door? they are the ones who created the problems facing our food supply and the farm industry. blaming the farmers and calling them welfare recipients is where my disagreement begins.

#13 jeff on 11.06.10 at 10:25 am

The revolving door. Try to be non-partisan in your research. Both bushs have a bunch of cronies for sure. But so do clinton, gore, carter. They’re all dispicable.

#14 Poly43 on 11.06.10 at 11:46 am

I don’t give a shit about r’s or d’s anymore.

Nor do I. I’ve railed on SHS and Johnson on several topics. This topic just happens to be about our states latest queen…kristi.

I know there’s abuse of farm programs and I can’t say if noem’s one of them.

She is. Enlarge the map provided with this link. ( Oh, and read the story. Good one)

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4736044

The area around Hayti and including Racota Valley is a sea of green. We were discussing your post.

“If it costs more to produce your product than you can sell it for you will not be in business long.”

So how hard can it be to sit and watch your CRP land do nothing, and wait for the subsidy check each year?

The hunting thing is valid only to a point. then it becomes a diversion. When a business opportunity is presented most people will take it if they are capable.

You’re losing sight of the topic once again. YOU voted for Kristi to stop big gubment, yet YOUR rep cashs in subsidy checks and as a side venture with her brother sold federally subsidized crop insurance. Not to mention running a canned hunting operation. Not to mention having a sleezeball as a brother-in-law who thinks he is as above the law as kristi thinks she is.

http://gfp.sd.gov/news/news/september/16.aspx

Grantham is married to Kristi’s sister.

#15 Costner on 11.06.10 at 2:04 pm

jeff you are missing a few points. First of all, Lars Herseth wasn’t running for office, and since Stephanie is not an owner in the farm it didn’t matter. You seem to be holding her accountable for the actions of her relatives, but it doesn’t work like that.

Second, Herseth-Sandlin never complained about farm subsidies or used it as a political weapon against Noem.

Third, the reason the issue is brought up is because Noem repeatedly complained about subsidies for various industries in the form of bailouts, stimulus funds, grants, loans, or other government assistance programs. She also made statements about such programs being socialism and how Washington needs to stay out of it and allow a free market. Therefore – in short – she is nothing more than a hypocrite. She is more than happy to collect her check, but the second some other industry benefits from the government she is complaining about deficits.

Now I realize you can’t just shut off farm subsidies, but never once has Noem even discussed the issue or talked about a long-term plan to phase them out or to allow farmers and ranchers a true open market to sell their products at a price that would allow them to make a living without government subsidies.

There is the rub… she wants the government to spend less money and eliminate programs just as long as the programs being cut and the funding being reduced doesn’t impact her personal bank account. Pretty much like every other politician out there I suppose.

#16 jeff on 11.06.10 at 3:46 pm

Noem isn’t being defended by me. Ok she’s a hypocrite, if you can compare the various stimulous spending to the farm program. Seems like a stretch to me. I’ll repeat myself again; farming and ranching got to where it’s at because of politicians and agribusiness corporations blowing each other for profit not because of greedy and corrupt farmers. Check that against the stimulus recieving corporations.
Politicians have been bought and payed for decades already. The current economic downfall is all of their greedy and corrupt asses fault. Hopefully with the current ‘vote out the incumbent’ attitudes, their house of cards is beginning to fall. It won’t as long as idiots keep swallowing the D vs. R bs tho.
Repeating myself again, why don’t more people hear about the revolving door? It’s not just the farming industry it’s every big business ie. defense, medical, pharm, etc. I think voters, the common folks, would be apalled if they knew how these bureacracys are run by politicians with corp. profits as the main goal.
Mr. Sandlin is a lobbiest. Thune was for the RR. Mrs. Daschle for the airline ind. These are small examples from our poor little state. Others are major bureaucracies and major companies like lockheed martin, oil co’s., pharmaceuticals, on and on – hundreds of billions of dollars.
But if your a D and an R farmer is running for office it’s ok to beat them with the subsidy charges and call them Welfare recipients?

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