The ‘Outdoor’ sirens should have worked regardless if you can hear them inside or not

Belfrage is having a cow, over nothing, once again;

In every single one of the interviews or talks that I’ve given with Todd, he has always made it clear that the sirens are for outdoor use only.

This is absolutely TRUE, but Greg decides to spin it, like him and his Trumpster ilk like to do;

In my opinion, Councilor Stehly jeopardizes lives when she spreads such blatant misinformation.

As you will see in a FB comment below, the only one jeopardizing lives was the people who failed to turn on the sirens to begin with. While it is true they are for outdoor use only, it doesn’t change the fact that someone really screwed the pooch, and just blowing it off as ‘human error’ and it really doesn’t matter (because apparently people are not outside during storms) is hogwash. Stehly should be concerned the sirens didn’t alarm, whether they are for outside, inside or for the moon.


#1 Reliable Voter on 09.17.19 at 9:19 am

I don’t want a damn team in any level of government. The whole damn point of divided government and a two-party system is to inhibit the damn team mentality. And when government officials start talking about being a team player – it’s to keep secrets or underplay citizen concerns. Be a team government player = when we all present a united front, it’s easier to quash dissent from taxpayers.

#2 "'Extremely' Stable Genius on 09.17.19 at 11:16 am

I have always been able to hear them indoors. It’s not just an outdoor siren. Else, since most people are a sleep at 3am, then the sirens only work for part of the day? Well, that is, if they work at all?

#3 Blasphemo on 09.17.19 at 11:31 am

RV: Excellent point ! And, Belfrage is just being hysterical, and I mean that in the most uncomplimentary way as applied to a person of the male gender. However, good inclusion of the NWS link, L3wis. If you Google “tornado siren”, that NWS link plus others return the surprising info that “tornado sirens are not designed to be heard indoors”. So, maybe Councilor Stehly’s efforts would have been better put toward enlightening local residents who were under a mistaken impression . . . . than giving a more public voice to the uninformed who apparently griped to her.

#4 l3wis on 09.17.19 at 11:38 am

Yeah, funny isn’t it. I always hear the sirens indoors to. In fact, the night of the storm I heard them indoors loud and clear, with all my windows closed and the wind gusting outside. The funny part was It didn’t go off until 20 minutes after the tornado hit. My phone was the first to alert me.

#5 "'Extremely' Stable Genius" on 09.17.19 at 12:13 pm

So based on the city’s logic, air raid sirens in London during the Blitzbrieg attacks were only meant for those outside?

Between T.J.’s comments on FB and the city being for the line before they were against it, plus now this, I think it is now time for some real leadership and less spin and mockery from City Hall concerning this storm.


#6 anominous on 09.17.19 at 3:34 pm

More historically revisionist horseshit. The sirens are tested every month, and everyone knows when they are on. Maybe the folks who now insist they can’t be heard “inside” should pull their heads out of their asses.

#7 Fluff McFluffin on 09.17.19 at 4:24 pm

You said it yourself, your phone alerted you. Just like everyone else. Everyone is trying to crucify the Mayor because the sirens didn’t go off at the time. I know maybe one person who doesn’t have a smart phone. I know there are some that don’t, but I don’t know who they are. Everyone’s phone alerted them. Outdoor sirens are an antiquated method of alarm. That being said, they should have went off. Who is responsible for them though? Just curious where the fault actually lays…..

#8 "Uh, Elmer, activate immediately the outdoor only 'Taupester Sirens,' because we have tornadoes coming at us at ludicrous speeds!... ("Ludicrous speeds")?" on 09.17.19 at 5:11 pm

Apparently at night, the sirens are only designed for drunks who are in a bar parking lot and getting into their cars so they can race home in a drunken stupor to seek shelter.

#9 Blasphemo on 09.17.19 at 5:30 pm

ESG: the same thing occurred to me about WWII air raid sirens. Of course, PTH’s sheeple would decry a comparison to technology used in a prior century. But, today – instead of one universally understood warning device (siren) – scores of dissimilar alternatives (EAS broadcast, weather radio, smart phone apps, etc) – are the responsibility of the individual. “Technology, at the expense of convenience (and arguably effectiveness), is not progress.”

#10 D@ily Spin on 09.17.19 at 5:40 pm

The point is there wasn’t warning. Tornados that touch and go are hard to predict. That time of the night most were asleep without a TV on. Some got warning on their cell phone. I didn’t. What this sounds like is potential for tornados needs more alert time. After a touch down is to late. Also, sirens should be somewhat louder so they might be heard inside frame buildings.

#11 Incompetant and Immature on 09.17.19 at 5:56 pm

I too hear them inside all year long. However, I had windows open and obviously did not hear them.

I am sick of the incompetence of this immature mayor. If he were competent he would acknowledge a mistake.

#12 "'Extremely' Stable Genius" on 09.17.19 at 8:29 pm

As long as humanity can hear, sirens will have their relevance.

Merely relying upon modern technology, like cell phones, to warn people of storms is analogous to the attitude about technology and “on-demand busing.” These innovative approaches have more to do with lessening government involvement overtime in the areas of transportation and weather information for example, and thus, saving tax dollars, then they have to do with being innovative and a head of the curve as some “tech savy” political leaders would like to suggest or infer.

The city’s response to this storm was politically a conservative approach. It was a Hoover approach, but definitely not a FDR approach. But then again, those who hate government just don’t get it and don’t know how to utilitze government for the common citizen, I am afraid: but in so doing, they hate democracy too, but won’t admit it.