The Telecoms are Full of Crap!

I won’t get into whether or not 5G causes Cancer or if the Chinese are spying on us, my butt hurt over 5G has always been the lack of public input and involvement;

“Thanks to the outspoken, progressive leaders, the network will launch by the end of the year, making Sioux Falls one of the first cities in the nation with 5G technology,” a news release said.

The Sioux Falls City Council was titty-twisted into approving this, coming down from on high from Ironic Johnny Thune-Bag and his water boy Mayor TenHaken because of millions in lobbyist money.

The public was NEVER consulted on whether they wanted this, or needed it.

I almost threw up a little when they used the words ‘outspoken’ and ‘progressive’. There is nothing brave or liberal about implementing 5G without public input. In fact the whole basis of bold leadership is listening to the needs of the citizens. The way 5G was implemented in Sioux Falls was a farce, and it has nothing to do with progressive movements but more like capitalist tricks and capitalist welfare.


#1 rufusx on 10.31.19 at 9:08 pm

Who the hell asked the public their opinion before Henry Ford was given zoning permission to build a huge factory and start mass-producing automobiles??

#2 Fear & Loathing in Sioux Falls on 10.31.19 at 10:17 pm

So if you don’t own a smartphone, can you opt-out of the cancer? And why would China want to spy on me? Many would say I lack any intellectual property. And does this mean that, in order, to qualify for “on-demand busing,” you’ll have to take the cancer with it?

( – and Woodstock states: “I, myself, am honored of the thought, that a billion Chinese might want to spy on me.”)

#3 D@ily Spin on 10.31.19 at 10:18 pm

Cellular is a public utility. When a tower goes up on private property, the land is leased and subject to a hearing. Hardware on a light pole in public right-of-way is not subject to zoning. There’s no proof 5G is harmful. I think it’s overkill but I also thought the internet would never take off.

#4 l3wis on 11.01.19 at 7:35 am

Public utility? Hmmmm. While water, gas and electricity are ‘needs’ I’m not sure wireless internet access is, especially when we have fiber optic (that operates about 1000x faster).

#5 Unimpeachable on 11.01.19 at 3:54 pm

Is a “public utility” like a public tool? Because if they are one of the same, then we have plenty of them in leadership positions amongst us, and they’re cancerous to democratic thought, and potentially spying on us through the cover of street maintenance, too.

#6 Anonymoose on 11.01.19 at 4:31 pm

Scott, today about 1 in 5 Americans only have internet on their cell phone. If current trends continue by 2025 that number will grow to 70%. I don’t know if you’ve ever tried to get a job or pay your bills without internet, but it’s virtually impossible. At this point, yes, internet is considered a public utility.

Yes, fiber is nice but we’ve been through this conversation before. If you have a detailed implementation plan for running fiber to everyone’s cell phone, please share it. If we’re to believe the numbers that’s going to look pretty messy in 2025 with fiber cables running to 70% of the nations cell phones. We might have a few technical barriers to overcome; first on the list being how we’re going to make enough individual fiber cable long enough to stretch to each coast. They are also somewhat delicate so you’re going to need to work on the cable technology a bit. We need to make sure those cables can withstand the constant dragging along the pavement at high speeds. Tricky, but I’m sure you’ve already thought of all of this.

#7 Warren Phear on 11.03.19 at 1:05 pm

5G is a scam. Anytime you partner verizon, politicians, and ALEC, you better be ready for BOHICA.

#8 Accurate Spin on 11.03.19 at 3:44 pm

The point that Daily Spin is making is that there are various types of communications companies – notably for this conversation “private carriers” and “common carriers”. The major wireless companies are so called “common carriers” and have to accept all customers who want to use their services. A company with fiber between multiple buildings in a town only for their use is an example of a private carrier (say if a company had fiber between the old Gateway Cow building and the old Citibank Bldg 3). Common carriers, in exchange for graciously allowing the masses to purchase their services, at what ever price they set, have special rights to use public rights of way because they are operating in “the public good”. In the old days when Ma Bell received the same revenue the government allowed them for a customer who cost them a lot or a customer who was inexpensive to serve there was a quo to the quid because they had to serve customers even if they lost money on that customer. Now the wireless companies are not required to and don’t serve 100% of the public, they are designated by FCC fiat as competitive so they can set whatever price they want, but they still retain those rights to the public rights of way. Instead of requiring 100% coverage Congress has established standards which encourage the carriers to serve densely populated regions and ignore rural areas (unless they get lots of subsidies).

Regardless of history the common carrier designation is the legal “concept” that is used to justify various regulatory concepts like blocking the Sprint merger to maintain competition. The same legal concept is used to justify telling power companies (another type of common carrier) and cities(who we all know operate only for the public good..) how much they get when they rent their poles for antennas.

The regulation of telecommunications un the US dates back more than 150 years and many of the concepts are borrowed from the legal theories used to regulate railroads and telegraphs before that. Telecom regulation tends to exist in an alternate reality system in today’s world but you have to understand that alternate reality to understand what is happening with 5G.