Trump’s recent assessment of Thune had me laughing, because it is true. John has been Mitch’s lap dog for a long time, that’s how he got to majority whip. I call him ironic because when he ran against Daschle he claimed Tom’s position of Majority Leader made him forget he was representing South Dakota. How’s that working out for you John?
John has been in Washington for 21 years (Congress 1997-2003, Senate 2005-present). What has he accomplished? Well if you look at his voting record, you could argue that he has done good and bad depending on your political views. In my opinion I think the only thing progressives and conservatives can agree on Thune’s actions is he has been good to veterans. In the Senate he sponsored 740 bills. Most of his bills have to do with military, abortion and agriculture.
• Anti-gun safety and gun regulation
• Anti-choice and women’s healthcare funding
• Anti-environmental and agriculture regulations
• Anti-immigration
• Anti-employee and worker rights and safety regulations
• Massive tax cuts to the super rich
While it is probably easy to understand why a red state like South Dakota has continued to re-elect this conservative ass clown, the laws Thune has helped pass have actually kept our state in the stone age. I actually believe Kristi Noem when she says she won’t challenge Thune in a primary and is good friends with him, because they are political twins (I sometimes think they are the same person).
Can Thune be beat in 2022? Most would say NO. I would agree with that assumption in a Republican primary but not in a general. As I told someone once that I was helping to run for office, “Anyone is beatable, but you have to put in the work.” I think if the right candidate presents themselves they could beat Thunebag.
Before I get ahead of myself, I think the first step is the SD Democratic Party recruits someone this summer thru a full vetting and grooming process and announcing the candidacy next Fall. While I think the Democratic brand in South Dakota is extremely damaged, I don’t think a true independent could challenge Thune, they would need the backing of the National Democratic party. I also think you could find someone who is very moderate on the issues and could appeal to the conservatives. They also need to be willing to challenge Thune on all the issues, and be an incredible public speaker. Showing up as a candidate and making a good show of it is half the battle. If you roam around the cornfield and talk like a dolt, what’s the point? This is why recruitment is key to beating Thune. The campaign will be the easy part if you pick the right person.
Trump is right, it’s time for Thune to pack it up, but we need to replace him with a Democrat not another Republican lackey. I hope the Democratic Party in South Dakota gets moving on this . . . today!
you might want to check his record on veterans.Check his record on mandatory funding for health care for veterans to be taken care of.Senator Johnson was a great advocate for veterans to get health care.Check his votesand compare them against Thunes.
A liberal can beat Thune, but that candidate needs to make the issue Thune versus Trump.
If the state party has their way by picking a candidate this summer or fall. The choice will be lame. It will be too cautious of a candidate, and that candidate will definitely lose.
We need to run a liberal, and in so doing, we will energize the base of the Democratic Party, which will make victory for that Democratic senate candidate even more possible.
The state party should only get into this senate race, as far as finding a candidate, if a candidate does not emerge by January of 2022, but by then, I know for a fact, that at least one person will be running against Thune as a Democrat in 2022. This candidate is a liberal, proud of it, and will not represent the milk toast approach which most Democratic congressional candidacies in recent years in South Dakota have offered.
South Dakota’s ideological purists are incensed with Republicans John Thune and Dusty Johnson for caving on Herr Trump.
Former Chairwoman at the Lincoln County GOP Betty Otten is calling for their heads so is Rapid City’s Bill Napoli. Republican former legislator Betty Olson wants Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell to be driven into exile after he acknowledged Joe Biden’s win. Arch-conservative Lora Hubbel from Sioux Falls calls Thune an “embarrassment.” Gordon Howie is saying Thune and Reich Mike Rounds are “out of touch with South Dakota†and should be replaced.
Recall longtime Republican stalwarts like Phil Jensen, Charlie Hoffman, Betty Olson, Florence Thompson and at least fifteen others threw up their hands in desperation with first term Representative Howdy Doody Dusty Johnson and backed Elizabeth Marty May in the Republican US House primary.
There is a “Primary John Thune in 2022†Faceberg page with 1300+ members. They’re serious but not serious enough to run an unaffiliated big name candidate against him in the general election because nobody can match his $13 million war chest.
Making him burn off a couple bucks of his war chest won’t weaken him one bit but moderate Jeff Lassle has all but announced for the SDGOP Senate primary. A big name principled conservative running an affiliated race in the general election is real bang for the buck.
I have already predicted Thune won’t run for re-election so Kristi Noem has a straight shot at South Dakota’s seat. Recall Bill Janklow banked his war chest even after killing Randy Scott. Thune is no less greedy, that’s for sure.
Potential primary or third party candidate, Shad Olson has had enough.
“All roads lead to a new American civil war as patriots and communists wait on pins and needles to see whose turn it is to lead the charge of the light brigade. Intimidation, threats of violence and promised reprisals are the language of the militant left as illustrated perfectly by Michigan Representative, C.A. Johnson who issued an open threat to “Trumpers†and then doubled down on it in her latest unhinged violent rant.” [Olson, Faceberg post]
There is a mass exodus underway from the SDGOP and there isn’t a single story about it in the South Dakota media. Conservatives are sick of being lied to by Zionist mob boss Lederman and are already fighting back against the South Dakota Republican Party insiders in the state. South Dakota’s most ardent citizens for liberty are recruiting conservatives to run not just for legislature but for statewide elections, too.
The “Patriot Movement” wants to leave the GOP and form its own party. How would that work in South Dakota, Scott?
better thune than whatever west river nut job who would run against him in the primary. i may be wrong.
Senator Covid Kristi…..hahahahaha
Senator #KowgirlKristiKovid coming in 2026, or can the teenager with a commanding voice beat her in a Republican primary?
“… but by then, I know for a fact, that at least one person will be running against Thune as a Democrat in 2022. This candidate is a liberal, proud of it, and will not represent the milk toast approach which most Democratic congressional candidacies in recent years in South Dakota have offered.”
This would seem foreshadowing for a campaign announcement, right here on the pages of South Dacola!
January 2021 might seem early, but an early announcement by the right candidate could freeze out the rest of the field – and apparently too the state Democrat party.
Why let those in the state party play safe with this race?
TGfG,
You are assuming the SDDP know a right candidate when they see one.
The SDDP is too interested in anti-choice, pro-gun, and “Christian” candidates, or candidates who are tight with the Chamber. Such a candidate is the GOP’s duty. The people want a choice between Coke and Pepsi, they don’t want Shasta to replace Coke.
YOU are NOT going to beat Thune by placing a hardcore Liberal-Progressive against him.
You are going to have to find a candidate that strongly believes in both the U.S Constitution as well as the South Dakota Constitution, and whom will best bind themselves to the State Statuts, Codes, Regulations, and Values of this “State”.
The SOUTH DAKOTA CONSTITUTION shall matter first and foremost … Especially Article 6, Section 2 –
Due process–Right to work. No person shall be deprived of life, liberty or property without due process of law. The right of persons to work shall not be denied or abridged on account of membership or nonmembership in any labor union, or labor organization.
The LEGISLATURE shall be tasked in finding a strong, confident, conservative, constitutional “Candidate” in order to go up against John Thune. After all – the U.S Constitution Article 1, Section 2 places “MY LEGISLATURE” in charge of nominating and appointing that U.S Senator.
Repeal the 17 Amendment !!!
“Milk toastâ€. Lol. You must’ve went to the Scott school of English.
Say, “Anti-Quotation Boy” and other things, I appreciate your constructive criticism. It was constructive, right? It wasn’t just conservative, right?
And how’s your “non-partisan” city council coming along?
Oh, and the candidate that Mike suggests can only be found in the bowels of the GOP.
The “Anti-Quote Boy” is like John Denver. To quote Dumb, or was it Dumber?: “He’s full of shxt man.”:
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=milk%20toast
VSG,
More to the point – announce the (your?) candidacy now!
Of course the SDDP won’t know the right candidate (pun fully intended) when they see him/her.
Freeze them and their choice out of the field.
It might be fun to watch the SDDP try to win the primary with, let’s say, only a $45,000 budget. That’s usually about how much the “Chosen Candidate” has in the spring of a given election year.
Plus, Barth’s early candidacy didn’t stop Varilek and Lowe’s early candidacy didn’t stop Wismer, with the two latters being the chosen in their respective years, but money might have.
But me? Well, I have thought about it. But then again, me and my wife just found out we will be grandparents for the first time. So, there’s an other bundle that’s getting more attention right now, if you know what I mean. But then, who knows? 😉
VSG,
Good point on Varilek. Blame Tim Johnson? Tried to be the ‘Jim Abdnor kingmaker-type’ by launching one of his staffers into federal office.
Congrats on the impending new role as grandpa!
And who knew that all the Dem candidates in the 2012 US House race would be frozen out with Varilek’s ice luge on National Corn Dog Day!
whenever thune wants to inflict maximum political damage with words he launches a dog as metaphor trope, e.g. like a shot dog, that dog won’t hunt, etc.
Thanks TGfG, it should be fun. The grandchild, that is.
😉
Thune shoots dogs. Who knew?