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Forget the debate, HB 1217 isn’t really needed

We can yell and scream all we want at each other about whether abortion is ethical or not, but the facts are simple, the 72-hour forced counseling legislature isn’t really needed;

He (Dr. Buehner) said he goes through 25 pages of paperwork with a woman seeking an abortion, including a section requiring her signature on each of 13 pages.

I have to tell them they’re terminating the life of a whole, unique, separate human being. I have to tell them they’re terminating a constitutional relationship with an unborn child. I have to tell them about suicide risk,” Buehner said.

Like I have said before, women don’t just walk into an abortion clinic, get an abortion, and walk out 10 minutes later. HB 1217 is an attempt to limit abortions in our state by making them more difficult to attain, that’s it. It doesn’t help the women seeking an abortion, it only complicates their lives even more, and it certainly doesn’t help the unborn.

Roger, you really need to get a hobby.

We should change the name of Pierre

Though voters have said TWICE that we are a pro-choice state, some legislators don’t get it. They continue to make it harder for women to have safe access to abortion;

A measure requiring women to consult with pregnancy help centers before getting abortions passed Tuesday in the South Dakota House despite arguments that it probably will be thrown out by courts after an expensive legal battle.

The bill says an abortion could not be performed until at least 72 hours after a woman first meets with a doctor who will perform the abortion.

That doctor would have to determine whether the woman is voluntarily seeking an abortion and whether she is at risk for developing psychiatric or physical problems if she has an abortion.

Before getting an abortion, a woman also would have to consult with a pregnancy help center to get information about services available to help her give birth and keep a child. The state would publish a list of pregnancy help centers that seek to persuade women not to have abortions.

The bill’s main sponsor, Rep. Roger Hunt, R-Brandon, said many women have made it clear that they did not get adequate counseling before getting abortions at South Dakota’s only abortion clinic, which is in Sioux Falls. Women have testified in court cases and in legislative hearings that they have been coerced into getting abortions by boyfriends, husbands and others, he said, but the abortion clinic does nothing to help them resist that pressure.

“This is a matter of life. This is a matter of taking life,” Hunt said. “This is about information and blocking coercion. These are all good and noble objectives.”

So what Roger is saying is women getting abortions are to ignorant to understand what they are getting themselves into, but he knows better. Yeah . . . Right.

The measure also would force women to submit to lectures by unqualified counselors or volunteers who argue against abortion because of religious beliefs, Gibson said.

“It substitutes what amounts to harassment, propaganda and coercion for unbiased counseling information,” Gibson said.

Councilors who just happen to be really good friends of Mr. Hunt. While I can understand the outrage by women when it comes to the privacy issues, I am more concerned about the business nepotism going on here. Why not just require a QUALIFIED councilor to be present at PP? And maybe I am off base, but I believe women are told about the procedure before getting it done. I don’t think it is any freaking mystery, abortion terminates a pregnancy. I think it’s time we ABORT some legislators in Pierre and vote them out of office next time around.

Another Abortion Bill . . . yawn

Here we go again. Voters in SD have clearly said they are pro-choice, twice, but some of our state legislators still don’t freaking get it;

The Legislature finds that as abortion medicine is now practiced in South Dakota that:

(1)    In the overwhelming majority of cases, abortion surgery and medical abortions are scheduled for a pregnant mother without the mother first meeting and consulting with a physician or establishing a traditional physician-patient relationship;

And that’s just (1) – read the whole thing. I also find it ironic that I could only count two (2) female sponsors. Maybe I’m wrong, I didn’t know all of the names, if someone could clarify, that would be great. They are bolded and italicized.

Introduced by:    Representatives Hunt, Abdallah, Bolin, Brunner, Cronin, Feickert, Gosch, Greenfield, Hansen (Jon), Hickey, Hoffman, Hubbel, Jensen, Kirschman, Kloucek, Kopp, Magstadt, Munsterman, Nelson (Stace), Russell, Steele, Stricherz, Tornow, Tulson, Van Gerpen, Venner, and Wick and Senators Novstrup (Al), Brown, Heineman, Holien, Kraus, Lederman, Maher, Olson (Russell), Rave, Rhoden, and Schlekeway

South DaCola classic toon of day • Oct 18, 2007

It’s okay to launder money as long as you are saving babies?

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Another letter writer says ‘screw the law’ as long as we are ‘saving babies.’

I am appalled by the Argus Leader’s continued harassment of state Rep. Roger Hunt to divulge the name of his client who generously gave money to protect unborn babies in South Dakota.

Harrasment? It’s called reporting the news. If anything, the Gargoyle isn’t covering this story enough.

Most of us in South Dakota do not think it is OK to kill babies.

I would think 100% think it is not OK to kill babies, that’s my guess. However, a majority of South Dakotans have voted twice to give women the choice on whether to end a pregnancy. I have said that South Dakotans sometimes vote pro-choice because they are sick of the secrets and lying from the pro-life movement. Maybe if you movement practiced a little honesty and openness, like revealing donor names, more people would take up your cause. I’m just saying.

Imagine that, healthcare reform will probably fail. Big surprise? NOT!

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Someone should abort that hairdo

Well when big pharma, the insurance companies and anti-choice freaks have you by the balls, whadda you expect?

“The absolute refusal of Republicans in the Senate to support health care reform and the hijacking of the bill by defenders of the insurance industry have brought us a Senate bill that is inadequate,” said Richard Trumka, head of the AFL-CIO.

His criticism of GOP lawmakers aside, Trumka’s blast seemed aimed at Nelson, Joe Lieberman, I-Conn., and possibly other members of the Senate Democratic caucus who have stripped the legislation – a year in the making – of any form of government-run insurance option.

As I said from the beginning, the legislation would start out strong (public option) then in the end be stripped of anything good in it, help few people and cost too much. I hope it does fail, and so does Howard Dean;

Andrew Stern, head of the Service Employees International Union, said he, too, is deeply disappointed in the proposal.

But, like Trumka, he stopped short of urging its defeat. Not so Howard Dean, the former national party chairman, who has said he opposes the legislation because it does not include a strong enough role for government in a remade health care system. Dean unleashed his criticism this week after Lieberman won the deletion of a proposed expansion of Medicare.

I would go farther and say Medicare should be available to everyone, it would be the ‘Public Option’. I have also felt that if you are going to force people to have private insurance there should be a 75-100% write off in your taxes for the cost of premiums, you would think that would be something the private insurance companies would support.

The legislation’s current form is a gigantic turd that won’t do anything for anyone, and for once, I agree with Thune, it needs to go down in flames. BUT, after the Holiday recess they need to start fresh, offer a strong public option TO EVERYONE and get it done before November 2010 when the Republicans will likely gain more seats.

DRIFTGLASS EXPLAINS IT BEST

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President Obortion?

I see Cow Pasture Doohickey’s t-shirt design came true

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Another SD Republican gets off . . .

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. . . but not in the way you would think.

Minnehaha County Circuit Judge Kathleen Caldwell said the state had no authority to file a lawsuit against Rep. Roger Hunt, R-Brandon, and Promising Future Inc. in an attempt to get him to name the donor.

While many of us in the ‘Political Know’ know who the secret donor is, it would still be nice to have that person revealed to the public. But, hey, when you are as rich as they are, you can buy just about anything, including, silence. I’m not saying that is what happened, but you never know in this fricking state when it comes to politics, Republicans and money. As a big First Amendment supporter, I don’t have a problem with someone donating thousands of dollars to something they believe in, but they should at least have the gonads (or vagina) to own up to their convictions. If you truly believe abortion is ‘murder’ you would think you would be standing on a street corner telling everyone instead of sitting in a dark room cutting checks. What a coward and a hypocrite.

If we can’t beat ’em, we’ll out-breed ’em

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While you pinkos are out burning american flags, railing against the true Christian foundation of this great nation, trying to steal our guns, and bowing at the feet of the Obamassiah, we REAL AMERICANS are quietly repopulating the country with future PATRIOTS.

Your vile works of “art” mocking our LORD will be burned by the next generation according to a very prominent servant of God.

The culture war is up for grabs. The good news is that religious conservatives continue to breed like rabbits, while secular saboteurs have shut down: they’re too busy walking their dogs, going to bathhouses and aborting their kids.

Though Sally is sterile (I see to that every other week with bleach and hot water), other REAL AMERICANS continue to outbreed you birth-control-loving, debaucherous, baby-killing pinkos by leaps and bounds.

See ya later (unfruitful) fornicators!

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