25 Thoughts on “The first drawlings of a new EC are revealed today

  1. Ha, the hockey team would LOVE to see that size of a crowd! Too bad it only exists in la-la-Huether-Land.

  2. l3wis on July 11, 2011 at 5:59 pm said:

    To comment on the article, we have all known for a very long time, giant conventions will never come here, especially in the winter. Who the fuck wants to come to SF in January for a convention? Seriously? I think SF needs to come to a realization. We are a great community to raise children in, we are safe and we like fast food. Beyond that we are no fucking mecca. We are comfortable. That’s it. Maybe we should spend millions on a marketing campaign to promote that. ‘Sioux Falls. A big fucking pillow!”

  3. You gotta watch KELO’s glee in reporting this story…and Huether’s claim that all 120 companies that he sent letters to can’t wait to invest!

  4. l3wis on July 11, 2011 at 6:47 pm said:

    Invest? You mean,
    can’t wait to eat from the trough.

  5. Poly43 on July 11, 2011 at 7:00 pm said:

    Ha, the hockey team would LOVE to see that size of a crowd! Too bad it only exists in la-la-Huether-Land.
    ~~~

    Don’t forget the golden goose called the Summit League basketball tourney. 30,000 rabid fans…for 14 games??? For at least ten of last years games in our UNDERSIZED Arena…it was an echo chamber. But it is widely proclaimed an economic generator in the making. How many of those 30,000 for 14 games were students who drove down from Brookings, and headed back to Brookings as soon as the games were over? More than any of our EC backers would care to admit.

  6. anominous on July 11, 2011 at 7:06 pm said:

    I love the Dale Chihuly hanging glass sculpture in the renderings. Yeah, throw one of them things in there, that will work just fine…

  7. l3wis on July 11, 2011 at 7:12 pm said:

    anom – thank you for noticing. Art fag like myself, I also laughed, like we have an extra $100,000 for a Chihuy. Don’t get me wrong, would be cool, but most attendees wouldn’t get it.

    http://www.google.com/search?q=chihuly+art&hl=en&biw=1308&bih=965&prmd=ivns&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=CZEbTtLfPNGrsAKdo_HdCA&ved=0CEsQsAQ

  8. Brom on July 11, 2011 at 8:32 pm said:

    I like how they present the drawings with thousands of people in attendance. I use to work for one of our local minor league teams and we were constantly releasing fake attendance numbers in order to drum up interest. In this town, a bigger center means more empty seats.

    Also,

    The last time I was at the convention center I was greeted by various employees with “how YOU do-in?” It was said in this annoying, nasally, sing-song voice with some sort of folk ‘twang.’ After about the fifth employee greeted me with this phrase, I nearly went berzerk and tore his fricken head off.

  9. Ooof, Brom.

  10. anominous on July 11, 2011 at 9:33 pm said:

    “Private Club”?

  11. l3wis on July 12, 2011 at 12:27 am said:

    Yup, that’s for the people who don’t have to pay for this place.

  12. Alice15 on July 12, 2011 at 8:30 am said:

    I am surprised that you have not picked up on the fact that we learned yesterday that the bonding process is “advisory” only – which means even if we spend the money on an election and the voters say no – the Mayor can build it anyways.

  13. l3wis on July 12, 2011 at 8:38 am said:

    I think what they meant by the ‘advisory’ part is that the bonding company we use and the amount we bond for is up in the air. In other words, if voters approve the EC the city will not be held to the $120 million dollar pricetag. If mayor Huether thinks he can build this thing w/o voter approval, he is nuts. I have never seen a brick building burn, but I am pretty sure City Hall would be burned to the ground.

  14. Alice15 on July 12, 2011 at 8:43 am said:

    Just something to keep your eyes open for. Would it really surprise anyone if the Mayor went ahead and did this thing without voter approval? After the last 6 months – not me.

  15. l3wis on July 12, 2011 at 8:45 am said:

    Like I have said before, he would be tarred and feathered and drug thru town.

  16. Tom H. on July 12, 2011 at 8:49 am said:

    I’ve said it before and I’ll keep saying it: if we can just get a $120M blank check, there’s a hundred better ways to improve the City than an events center.

  17. l3wis on July 12, 2011 at 8:59 am said:

    Great point Tom. Where would you go first? I’ll start out;

    • After roads and other infrastructure upgrades I would diversify our bike trail system and gut our transit system and start over. I would also do an extensive study on our parks system and eliminate parks that are not being used and sell the land, I would go a step farther and hire a commission based realtor to sell off all the property the city owns that they are not using and put the money into the reserves or CIP. I would also start a concerted effort to get a central park / state park / camping ground in conjunction with a permanent east west route thru the middle of SF.

  18. Alice15 on July 12, 2011 at 10:12 am said:

    My question is – why have this be an advisory vote? Why add the “gray” area? This guy doesn’t care. He is on his own agenda.

  19. l3wis on July 12, 2011 at 10:17 am said:

    Alice – I’m getting the feeling that the new city attorney isn’t the sharpest knife in the drawer. This isn’t me talking 🙂 So I am not too concerned that Mike is going to pull a fast one on us, certainly if he is depending on his legal counsel. I’m thinking David was chosen because he is green. Unfortunately, besides CC law, Mike doesn’t know alot about municipal law.

  20. anominous on July 12, 2011 at 10:42 am said:

    L3wis,

    Don’t them Chihuly things only cost $100,000 if they are small enough to sit on a table? The party pinatas run up in the million$.

  21. Tom H. on July 12, 2011 at 12:31 pm said:

    L3wis,

    First off, there is already a huge change underway that has the potential to revolutionize SF and costs next to nothing out of City coffers. It is zoning reform, and what the study group has shown so far is very encouraging: mixed-use, higher densities, urban villages, etc. You can check out the progress here:
    http://siouxfalls.org/Zoning/zoning_amendments/zoning_districts_study

    With less-restrictive zoning measures in place, I would put a lot of money into funds that neighborhoods could tap into to improve their streetscapes and neighborhood amenities – narrow street widths, landscape boulevards, widen sidewalks, improve parks, add public art, improve important intersections.

    I totally agree that transit in SF needs to be totally reformed. Minneapolis classifies its major streets as “Commercial Corridors” (think Minnesota Ave or 10th St) and “Community Corridors” (like 6th St or Phillips Ave south of DT) and then uses those classifications to determine appropriate zonings (like clustering neighborhood centers around intersections of Community Corridors) and to add appropriate transit investments. Seems better than the current system. Seriously, once-per-hour frequencies during the day? You’ve got to make your transit system something that people would CHOOSE to use.

  22. l3wis on July 12, 2011 at 3:01 pm said:

    Tom – Why do you think I like living DT? I have everything I need within a mile radius.

  23. Helga on July 13, 2011 at 12:03 am said:

    “We are a great community to raise children in”, Except for this part I agree with your comments. 31% of kids in Sioux Falls are eligible for free lunch and 7% are eligible for reduced lunches. That means almost 40% of the kids are poor enough to not have food at home. The mayor should take care of families and children and then maybe if there is money left over he can build his events center.
    Sioux Falls used to be a good place to raise kids.

  24. l3wis on July 13, 2011 at 12:08 am said:

    Helga, I would agree. I meant it by being safe, poor and hungry, but safe.

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