Not sure if you remember a few years ago when a man was arrested for setting up a sexual encounter with an undercover cop that he thought was a minor. A judge through the case out, because as he said, “It would be like charging someone for killing Mickey Mouse.” Well, the SFPD are at it again, creating crime;
SIOUX FALLS, SD -Three men face charges following a prostitution customer sting done by Sioux Falls Police.
Authorities say the men contacted undercover female officers posing as prostitutes by phone and through internet ads. The men are now charged with hiring for Sexual Activity.
Those arrested Thursday are:Â Adam Alrubaie, 52, of Hartford; Daniel Joseph Klecker, 63, of Sioux Falls; and Mitchell Allen Whitefield, 30, of Grand Rapids, Michigan.
Police say the operation is part of investigations dealing with prostitution and human trafficking in the Sioux Falls area.
Is prostitution a problem in Sioux Falls? Yes. It has been for a very long time, and I commend the SFPD for stepping up. But shouldn’t they be concentrating on catching ACTUAL prostitutes and Johns hiring these women? Placing FAKE ads online and ‘posing’ as prostitutes is only creating a crime where one was not present. You could argue that the SFPD department is actually the guilty party in this matter, since they are the ones placing the ads. What further frustrates me about this practice is that we are constantly hearing from county officials that they need more money for the courts and law enforcement – here’s a suggestion, stop creating criminal situations, and go after ACTUAL criminals instead of creating new ones.
It reminds me of code enforcement.
Its John DeLoreanism at its best.
Entrapment
I’d like to see the ads. Not that it makes any difference; they induced someone to call and negotiate a deal for sexual parts to be stimulated some way or another that placed the negotiation stage to be in violation of SD law.
Or so the SFPD claims. We’ll see.
My ad: “I’ll fuck you for $20.” Really. I’m serious. I will.
Is that solicitation? Wanna come arrest me? I WILL fuck you for $20.
So the cops place an ad, worded so as to entice some poor bastard who either can’t get laid in a more legally-accepted manner, or for whom part of the deal with sex is (s)he has to feel like (s)he paid for it in order to deal with the guilt.
WHERE THE FUCK IS THE CRIME?
Vice is a tough beat.
If people are stupid enough to take a shot from the road at a dummy deer set up by GF & P in the off season, why shouldn’t they also get busted for this? Maybe the police should just use dummy hookers, if you want parity.
The solicitation is definately a crime, but hardly worth this kind of effort. I would imagine an operation like this took a sizeable force of police, overtime and resources to carry out. In the end, 3 lonely dudes are hauled to jail and charged with misdemeanor offenses. A very hollow victory with nothing but to show but some tawdry headlines in the local rag.
So let me get this straight… You think that attempting to have sex with a minor who turns out to be a set up by the police is not a crime and the case should have been tossed? WOW. You must not have children. Or a soul.
I do agree that prostitution stings are a waist of time, but only the stupid are caught at this point in the game. If you haven’t heard about the numerous stings that have been happening in SF you might be to horny to be walking our streets.
LJL, you must have misunderstood me. Is the ‘attempt’ wrong? Yes. But the judge had a good point, basically, ‘How can we prosecute someone who was attempting to have sex with someone who did not exist?’
So every drug sting is unconstitutional? Every time a terrorist has purchased a fake bomb from the FBI, they should be exonerated because they were unable to commit the intended crime. If I hire a hitman to murder you and he turns out to be a cop in a sting, I should be let go.
Scott I don’t think you want to rape kids or see kids harmed but some of your analogize need to be thought out better. No doubt the police are wasting time with this type of prostitution sting, but lets not forget this all started with a pimp in Tea selling sex with underage girls. Imagine if we were able to catch this pig you executed these Sandy Hook kids before he……
And this judge is a soulless pathetic man. To compare attempted intent to harm a child and killing and a cartoon character….. he’s got a special place waiting for him after his last breathe.
Yes. Every drug sting is unconstitutional.
LJL, there is a difference in how the court is allowed to prosecute. If a person is conspiring to rape. bomb or shoot something / someone, then they can be prosecuted for conspiracy. An attempt to coerce a person by a policing body to do something is entrapment. These stings as done in Sioux Falls are usually found to be entrapments.
Testor – He just doesn’t get it. Maybe we should start arresting minors for ‘thinking about’ drinking beer.
They don’t arrest teens for thinking about drinking beer. But they do arrest teens for attempting to buy beer. I know it’s you who doesn’t understand it. If they screwed the undercover officer and left the money on the table would that be enough for you.
Your conspiracy theories are weak at best and it pisses you off when your called out on them. I’ll leave the ass kissing to Testor and company.
You still don’t get it. Attempting to have sex with a fictional being may be a bit disturbing, I will agree, but it is not illegal. Pursuing, or attempting to have sex with someone who actually exists that is not of legal age, is illegal. Do you understand? My point is actually more fiscal then ethical. Why doesn’t law enforcement focus more on catching actual people attempting actual crimes? Instead of creating scenarios? Many of the people who get caught in these stings don’t have records, or have ever been caught committing such a crime. Gee, I wonder why? When detectives are dangling these ads out their like coupons for FREE beer, I wonder why people respond. Everyone has sexual desires, that’s human nature. I just get so tired of people trying to make people’s fantasies and desires illegal. If you attempt to commit these crimes on ACTUAL victims, throw the book at yah. But entrapment, I don’t have time for it.
Probably went down like this:
http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/82602952/
Mr. Newland’s $20 offer is well known in most parts west of the Jim River. I think the SFPD needs to just get happier.
That doesn’t cost $20.
The PD does this because in right-wing SD, sex is still dirty and always will be dirty. But try as they may, the morality police will never stop the practice of adults seeking other adults on-line for sex. The laws against prostitution are stupid and futile.
I would agree. But that is another debate. What bothers me is this BS ‘creating crime’ scenario. It’s kind of like handing out free beer during school lunch at a Jr. High. Not every student would take the beer, but some would. Creating situations to see who is tempted is silly. And using taxpayer money to do so is even more scary.
LJL “So let me get this straight… You think that attempting to have sex with a minor who turns out to be a set up by the police is not a crime and the case should have been tossed? WOW. You must not have children. Or a soul.”
Did I miss something – I didn’t see anything in the news about these undercover agents posing as minors. Was that actually the case here or are you guys arguing over hypothetical scenarios that haven’t happened?
I won’t speak for anyone else, but I’m just glad to hear that Sioux Falls is 100% crime free now. Surely it must be if our police force has time to do these type of sting operations.
Craig, I was talking about a past case that a judge threw out because the PD was posing as a minor.