. . . concerning the racial discrimination accusations towards the ’18th Amendment’ bar. I received this comment on January 30 about the establishment, but didn’t really think much of it, until reading the Argue Endorser‘s story today;
so it turns out that the 18th amendment is turning away black people at the door by handing them a card and telling them they have to call to find out why they are not allowed in the bar…sounds like a lawsuit to me!
I really don’t understand handing out the card? If you are so concerned about these ‘people’ being a threat to society I would hand them a condom instead.
As a result, management had instructed security workers to hand a piece of paper to people who they deemed might cause problems because of gang-related or “thug” dress, or because of perceived aggressive demeanor.
The paper invites the person to call the bar’s manager the next day to discuss why he was turned away and what the expectations are that would allow him in next time.
I’m on the fence about this issue. Racial discrimination is intolerable, and if they have people working for them that are racist towards blacks, they should be fired, I just find it odd that the same establishments employee black people. I have even heard councilor Anderson Jr. bar tends part time at one of the said bars.
Bar and restaurant owners can refuse service to anyone. I worked at a restaurant downtown that had a strict policy about teenagers and loitering. If they did not buy anything, I told them to leave. Were they pissed? Sure. But I will defend a business owner’s right to make money, and if a certain kind of patron is preventing that, throw their asses out.
I can hear it already. How is this any different then the smoking ban? It is very different. The smoking ban was about having a safe work environment for EMPLOYEES. It had nothing to do with patrons.
Who knows how this will play out.
My advice to the patrons that were turned away, stop crying and change your clothing. My advice to the bar owner, fire racists.
The same article also stated that another bar in town had turned away Mike Miller because of his appearance. That definitely wasn’t racial.
Sure it was. Nobody likes dumb hick jocks from Mitchell.
If I were bouncing that place I’d turn away anyone in double breasted pinstripes.
and NASCAR gear.
I swear to Gawd, whenever I see that shit sit at one of my tables, I just say to myself, “Great. Shit tip.”
And my assumption has never failed me.
The line about desiring people who “dress to impress” made he glad I’ve never been to either bar.
I had lunch at 18th. Once. Never again. Our waitress was inattentive when we arrived; we waited 15 minutes after we sat down and finally sought out a waitress ourselves. The lunch special was salad and pizza. The service was slow. The greens were wilted and the cheese on my friend’s salad was melted. I’m guessing they sat under a warming lamp. I ordered a white sauce on my pizza, but the waitress said only red was available because the slices, along with the sauce, came frozen. They just added the toppings. My friend also ordered onion rings, which were passable. She presented our checks, which were correct, and took our debit cards. When she came back, she had given us the wrong checks. My friend and I visited a while before we looked at them. We were charged only for the lunch specials, not the soda or onion rings. We tried to catch her attention as she stood 20′ away, reading over the menu. I called, “Miss!” and “Waitress!” clearly and at an appropriate volume, but she didn’t reply. My friend and I shrugged, signed the bills and left.
People who are turned away from there aren’t missing much.
When someone comes out immediately and says they want $1000 to make the story go away and when they aren’t given their $1000 they tell a wild tale to a reporter… I’m less likely to believe it.
I wonder if Rosa Parks would have accepted a cash payout instead of a seat at the front of the bus or if Martin Luther King Jr. would have taken $300 if he promised to not write Letter from Birmingham Jail?
Get real – I’ve been in these bars as well as others who had the same policy and it always boils down to attire. The vast, vast majority of the time it is due to a hat or “do-rag” and they don’t care if the people are black, white, or anything in between. I’ve seen a no-hats policy entirely, but it seems now they are more concerned with the hats that are worn over the ears and turned on an angle. That isn’t a problem with just black people either – it is also a problem with young white kids who want to be black as well. (sarcasm intended)
They might have a point if there weren’t any black people allowed inside, but from my experience that hasn’t been the case. However unlike the crowd that ruined Nutty’s North, Homers, Coconut Joes, Lava Lounge, ACME, Jamz and a half dozen other bars in town due to the continual fighting and threatening demeanor, these bars are being proactive about it and trying to create a safe atmosphere that people will not shy away from.
I suppose depending upon who is at the door there is always a chance it will be race related, but personally I can attest to the fact there is no policy related to people of color, because not only have I see black people inside, but I’ve seen white people turned away at the door as well.
I’ve been to places that require a coat and tie.
Appropriate attire rule, what’s the problem?
If you dress like a thug there are places that won’t allow you in.
And there are places that won’t allow you in if you dress like a redneck, too. (Coat and tie required)
My guess is: when you grow up, put away the costume (and attitude), dress and act like an adult – and you won’t have any problems getting in.
Anywhere.
Like I said above, it comes down to making money as a business. Make them buy a drink at the door (that would probably get rid of half of them).
we have “dress to impress” events and now do prohibit people who are not approiately dressed from entering. Actually pissed off the people who did get all done up to see someone in their basektball shorts and wife beater get in.
Also we 100% stay away from rap…always seems to bring a violent element. Oh and UFC fights.
Hey, nothing bothers me, but if you think it protects your ability to make money, more power to you.
I don’t even like to see a group of teen boys/young men in “gangsta” attire on the street. They just plain look stupid.
I think one of the best ‘People of walmart’ photos I ever saw was this really tall man with his jeans almost all the way down to the back of his knees, and he was bent over in front of the cell phone rack grabbing a cell phone from the bottom row and the caption read, “Buy a phone, call a tailor.”
I should clarify my earlier statement about the dreaded “dress to impress” line. You don’t see me in Nascar costumes, nor do I have pants halfway down my ass. I also have no problem with truly high-class restaurants/bars where you’re expected to dress up. But whenever silly dance bars around here throw out phrases such as that, I know that’s not a place I want to spend any time or money.
BTW, Nite City/Jamz/Acme’s dress code was racially-motivated.
Scott is right. I’ve been to the 18th Amendment, where the staff wears t-shirts and the menu consists of burgers and other stuff. Not exactly a ‘high class’ joint. They should have a sign at the door that simply reads, ‘NO THUGS’ and leave it at that.
I was not allowed into a steakhouse in Omaha because I was wearing a ‘Buzzcocks’ t-shirt. I laughed about it, and my date said, ‘Nice’. We ate at a mexican joint across the street, and it was pretty good.
i fault the black people for wanting to patronize a racist establishment and leave money their in the first place. screw the 18th Amendment and go eat elsewhere. don’t you have any pride at all?