UPDATE: My worst fears came true. It seems they will be proposing to build a new convention center at the Riverline District and demolishing or repurposing the old convention center. Not sure this is the bold vision I was looking for.

I got word today that the administration has been meeting with councilors privately to discuss the Riverline District. I have no idea what that final vision is or what is being discussed. The mayor has said an announcement will be soon.

I have speculated they will propose a rec center or similar multi-use facility at the location eliminating any chance of an indoor facility at Frank Olson or Keuhn Park. I may be completely off kilter on my prediction, but I think after the miserable roll out of the proposal initially they are looking for something that the citizens can embrace.

The Riverline District, no matter what it is, is just a scheme for a developer to bilk taxpayers for another project we don’t need.

The bigger issue I have is the private meetings with councilors. This is the game the mayor’s office has played for several years and it is tiresome.

27 Thoughts on “UPDATE: Will a ‘Vision’ on Riverline District be soon?

  1. Fear & Loathing in Sioux Falls on January 18, 2024 at 4:22 pm said:

    So how do they plan to integrate the current trains into this new Riverline District concept? Will they have a brand new railroad museum of some sorts there? What about a kiddy train ride there like they used to have at Joyland Park? In fact, why don’t they just call it Railroadline District?…. Or, Railroad Debacle District? That might be even more appropriate…. But, then again, I always enjoy development around here, regardless, as I sit back and watch them build, while my taxes and home insurance on my humble abode go up 20 to 30% per year due to a middle class housing crisis in this town, which the local developers obviously don’t have any time to worry about…. Perhaps, they just see it as a “Global Issue”, huh?….:


  2. Very interesting points indeed. The constant secretism has quickly gotten old. Makes one wonder how many secret projects this Mayor will try to rush through in the final years of his term. Also, something to consider is who is he mentoring to run for Mayor to continue his way of managing or letting developers call the shots.

  3. Further Fear & Loathing on January 18, 2024 at 4:34 pm said:

    I can’t wait until the fine folks at the Bishop Dudley discover the Riverline District…. That ought to be fun, huh?…. But then again, they’ll probably just end-up busing them all to Heritage Park, huh?…. But, you know what though, it’s always perplexed me how they’re willing to bus people at times, but never like when it’s an opportunity to bus people from say the Whittier area to Roosevelt High….. I wonder why?

  4. Mike Lee Zitterich on January 18, 2024 at 6:47 pm said:

    It is private property so the mayor’s hands are tied. All the city government can do is ensure that the development stays in the form of the Shape Sioux Falls Concept. The City partners alongside the Landowners, Property holders, and developers to guide concept designs, but at the end of day, the River Line District is private property. The Property Holders put an investment group together to create a plan for the area. As the people learn, the real power behind the city is held by Landowners. Most of the meetings being held today are most likely executive type meetings between the City Government, Land Owners Property Holders, the Developers, the Investment Group as they discuss contractual matters of bringing all parties together.

  5. Very Stable Genius on January 18, 2024 at 7:24 pm said:

    Erickson will be the next mayor, you watch.

  6. frumpert on January 18, 2024 at 11:49 pm said:

    All this city gov does is do projects without the overall public best interest, because they are afraid of public input and engagement, simply put. They have way too many staff members, many of which don’t do hardly anything at work during the day. This is another project that is a one off and does not fit within the overall wants or desires of what we need, it is solely driven on the vision of rich people like the Canaries owner who wants a new stadium for a lackluster sports team that thinks it will automatically make people want to go there. That’s not the solution for this space or area. once this mayor is out and more fresh council members are in, and hopefully more city admin staff retiring then that’s when maybe, just maybe our city can finally get some direction and organization and some cohesive vision and not just be a ClickRain 2.0 with staff from that place or a mayor vs. council vs. mayor vs. city staff vs. everyone else, what a terrible mess it all is. Amen!

  7. D@ily Spin on January 19, 2024 at 9:29 am said:

    No faith, but that’s because everything has been a play place while what’s needed is infrastructure. This oligarchy needs a makeover. The mayor seeks a mentor.

  8. Jon Jermane on January 19, 2024 at 11:06 pm said:

    Gun violence is on the rise on our reservations:


    So, Congressman Dusty “I’m sick of the clowns in my Republican caucus so I think Jim Jordan should be nominated for Speaker” Johnson is helping with the gun concerns on our reservations:


  9. Jon Jermane II on January 19, 2024 at 11:16 pm said:

    If you want to hunt big game in this state as a resident it looks like you’ll need to spend 180+ days in South Dakota per year as a state citizen. But, but, if you want to vote in this state as a resident you just need to spend one night with a hook…. I mean in a hotel room to legally vote as a South Dakota resident. #WeHaveOurPriorities

  10. Paranoid, but educated. on January 19, 2024 at 11:32 pm said:

    A 13-year-old beats Tetris. A majority of Republicans in our country are obviously orange fascists. Now, it looks as though the Sports Illustrated Swimsuit Issue will be canceled. These are all very telling signs of the Rapture, indeed.

  11. "Woodstock" on January 19, 2024 at 11:35 pm said:

    “Say, where can a guy get some of this presidential immunity shxt?”…. “Because it all sounds like the ultimate insurance policy, if you ask me”…. 🙂

  12. Archie Bunkerramp on January 19, 2024 at 11:36 pm said:

    I’m being to think that Dusty is pro race war.

  13. Mike Lee Zitterich on January 20, 2024 at 12:23 pm said:

    Directed to Jon Jermaine II,

    As for the twenty-four hour rule to become a domiciled-citizen of the State, is merely a beginning to becoming a qualified voter of the State of South Dakota. It goes hand in hand with a Person being Born inside South Dakota’s political subdivision, and includes the same process that is required of you if you were to become a RV’ traveler choosing to become a Citizen of the State. The supreme court has ruled, that no State can restricting voting rights to residency status alone, it cannot place such requirement of 1 year, 30 days on any American choosing to register as a qualified voter – that person first has to spend the first twenty-four hours inside the State either A) Your Birth, B) Hotel, Motel, or C) Renting an Apartment, all such providing receipts or paper documents providing evidence that you have been inside South Dakota for at least twenty-four hours.

    The Birth Document you obtain from a Local Hospital provides the same evidence of “Born Under the State” as does the Receipt you obtain from a Hotel, Motel, Public or Private Campground, to yes, a Signed Copy of a Lease Agreement to an Apartment Complex, all such provides the first ‘Step” to becoming a “Domiciled American Citizen Under the State” itself.

    The next steps, if you are born under the State, you would have to submit that Birth Document to the Local Register of Deeds, under the Secretary of State’s Office, to which then provides back to you a State Issued Birth Certificate, this must be done sometime prior your 18th Birthday, that further gives you the ability to reside, transact your labor, to politically involve yourself under the State itself. Secondly, you must provide proof that your property is no held under the state, such as transferring your Motor Vehicle under the State, obtaining a Title of Certificate, a Driver License, to Obtaining Automobile Insurance, to yes, establishing a Bank Account at a South Dakota Chapter Bank, while also joining a Church, Housing Association, or a Neighborhood Association, providing proof that you have laid don ties to the People of South Dakota, thus Establishing Your Domicile.

    You do NOT have to reside in South Dakota one day, residency is not proof of Domicile, it is all those other things that plant your seed inside the State that counts most importantly. Yes, that means, in a 365 Day Calendar Year, you may never step foot inside South Dakota, choosing to reside in Arizona all 365 day, because of Employment Status, Military Status, or Some Other Legal, lawful defined exception. So long as ALL your ‘person, documents, income, association’ are established in South Dakota, you are then enabled, to become a Registered Voter Under the State of South Dakota, but you do take an “Oath” to the People of South Dakota, to abide by, and remain loyal to the State Constitution, Our Statutes, and Codes of Being a State-Citizen itself.

    That means, removing ALL legal, lawful parts to your person, property, association in ALL of the Other 49 States of the Union. Yes, this means, you cannot be on any “Voter Registration Roll ” in those other States, you cannot vote in more than one precinct. You may only have one Domicile, to which you place all your associations under a County of South Dakota, and one of its Voting Precincts.

    So I disagree fully, that SB13 is in violation of the Supreme Court Ruling – a state cannot force any American to reside in South Dakota 30 days, 45 days, or any number of days, this is deemed unconstitutional. All that matters is Your Domicile.

  14. D@ily Spin on January 20, 2024 at 5:34 pm said:

    Back on topic. The mayor seems to be initiating Strong Mayor Charter and deploying fascist methods to build something citizens don’t need or want.

    There should be overnight residence if not also citizenship. The sooner we get Mexico immigrants this far north, the sooner the state will have voters and become blue.

  15. Wait a minute, this announcement makes mention of the “bike trail”, but I thought many were now trying to call it the multi-use trail or path? 🙂

  16. “….The supreme court has ruled, that no State can restricting voting rights to residency status alone, it cannot place such requirement of 1 year, 30 days on any American choosing to register as a qualified voter – that person first has to spend the first twenty-four hours inside the State either A) Your Birth, B) Hotel, Motel, or C) Renting an Apartment, all such providing receipts or paper documents providing evidence that you have been inside South Dakota for at least twenty-four hours…”

    But, but, what you ignore here, Mike, is that a state can define what it means to be a citizen and currently that is one overnight in South Dakota. AND, if you are not a citizen of a state, then you cannot register to vote in that given state. The stipulations of the CR Act only deal with bona fide citizens of a given political entity.

    I also found it fascinating that when the State Senate Affairs Committee discussed this issue last week in reference to SB17, that State Senator Schoenbeck made mention of the Civil Rights Act and how we can’t deny a homeless person without an address the right to vote, but under current law a halfway house, which the homeless person frequents, could conveniently be used as an address,. But on second thought, if you don’t have a legitimate address, then what or where is your jurisdiction for a CR lawsuit on this issue?

    Also, Schoenbeck is the same State Senator during the 2021 redistricting (A public statement he made in the Summer of ’21) who incorrectly claimed that South Dakota was no longer beholden to the CR Act when it comes to creating specific legislative districts which would guarantee Native American representation in Pierre, but that proved to be wrong.

    ( and Woodstock adds: “Say, what about one overnight at the Buffalo Chip, would that count?…. But what if it was her tent?”…. )

  17. Western Boot Wearer on January 21, 2024 at 11:48 am said:

    I say we all vote to kill more animals, what do you guys all think? Because if anyone can vote in this state, then why don’t we all vote to allow everyone to kill animals when and where ever they want to? It’s only fair (Well, maybe not to the animals).

  18. The Guy From Guernsey on January 21, 2024 at 12:59 pm said:

    “With its proximity to … the Whittier neighborhood.” Huh?
    Is this the next generation of marketing doublespeak to be deployed by real estate agents in this town? A rhetorical device which, when stated or placed often enough in real estate property marketing descriptions, certainly becomes true, doesn’t it?

    “Highly sought after location with proximity to the Sports and Entertainment District”.
    Move aside.
    Make room for –
    “Highly sought after (and City subsidized) location with proximity to the Whittier neighborhood.”

  19. D@ily Spin on January 21, 2024 at 6:10 pm said:

    Per Wikipedia:
    Fascism (/?fæ??z?m/ FASH-iz-?m) is a far-right, authoritarian, political ideology and movement, characterized by a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, forcible suppression of opposition, belief in a social hierarchy, and subordination of individual interests.

  20. Just more buildings from the rich for the rich. The city does little for what residents and the future needs and it’s sad to see, also our city size is now so huge that these projects are so small that nothing we have build in the last 5 years are big enough for as many of residents we have. Just look at how poorly the city plans parks and amenities and facilities and how poorly they manage them and how poorly the city communicated even though they have almost 30.communoxarilns people on staff and how poorly the city is managed all just bad and they didn’t listen to any of the comments sor feedback on the survey about the district

  21. Fearing the Fuhrer & More on January 21, 2024 at 10:52 pm said:

    I believe Nixon grew-up in a Whittier neighborhood and he became president. 🙂


    AND, as that once SDSU jingle used to say: “You can go anywhere from here…”

    Plus, forget about the buses from Fargo….. What about the buses from Whittier?

  22. Paranoid, but educated on January 21, 2024 at 10:58 pm said:

    That fascist definition appears to have a dark, taupe-ish quality about it, does it not?

  23. Jon Jermane on January 21, 2024 at 11:12 pm said:

    Nikki Haley, Nancy Pelosi, what’s the difference? They’re both brunettes.

  24. Mike Lee Zitterich on January 22, 2024 at 8:53 am said:

    The Twenty-Four Hour rule is not the end all to establishing “Domicile” or citizenship of the State. As I mentioned above, there are other things a person must do to obtain full citizenship. whether it is providing your Hospital Birth Document to the State by age 18, or submitting Proof of Receipts to the State of a Hotel, Motel, Campground, Apartment Lease, which begins the process of establishing the domicile. There are other codified statutes that a person has to do to become a ‘citizen’ – establishing their ties to the State by means of a Trust, Bank Account, Transferring all motor vehicles to the DMV, obtaining a Driver License, to Joining a Campground Association, Housing Association, a Church first Established in South Dakota, to becoming a Member of one of the Local Chamber of Commerce, S.D Retailers Association, or Other Public Committees of the County or City under the County. And most importantly, one must have a Federal Identification Tax Number either Social Security # or an Employer Identification Number. Remember, one does NOT need a Social Security # until their Twenty-First Birthday, and one does not need a Birth Certificate until their Eighteenth-Birthday. So a “child” may not have an official domicile until they are considered legal adults, let alone turn the age of 13 as they begin to establish themselves Under the State…

  25. Still Waiting 4 The High Speed Trains on January 22, 2024 at 2:57 pm said:

    But what about that job you get at McDonalds when you’re 16? Whose Social Security number should you use until you are 21? Should you use one of those that is passed around amongst illegals so they can get a job?

    AND, I’m not sure about this phrase: “…. let alone turn the age of 13 as they begin to establish themselves Under the State…”…. When I read that I went: “Yuck!”… It appears to have an Epstein quality about it….

    Oh, and where can a guy sign-up for a “Campground Association”? AND, can this association be used on weekends when Pride is going on? #YogiBear #BuffaloChip

    Oh, and one more thing, if it’s just for 24 hours, then why would you need “receipts” for a hotel or motel room, won’t one receipt do? What are you really suggesting here?

  26. Virginia on January 23, 2024 at 11:44 am said:

    Glad to see MLZ is back offering unsolicited legal advice on an issue not even remotely close to the topic of the article.

  27. by old convention center, do you mean the one by the denty, or the one attached to the old coliseum?

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