Who is getting the last laugh?

In a war that forced me to change my voter registration to Indy (and I am not changing back anytime soon) it seems we are in it for the long haul. Thanks, again, GW Bush, for being the worst president evah!

Their departure leaves about 56,000 U.S. troops in the country, according to the U.S. military.

Uh, yeah, we are leaving Iraq. Kinda like we left Korea.

17 Thoughts on “Are we really leaving Iraq?

  1. Plaintiff Guy on August 19, 2010 at 6:16 am said:

    The 56,000 are “advisors”. Generally, this means special forces who stay out of firefights but hire and supervise platoons of mercenaries.

    I was inside Cambodia (1969) 50 miles for 4 weeks with 2 green berets and 20 mercenaries when Nixon admitted we were there. He stated we’d advanced 21.7 mi. in 1 day to knock out a buildup and were retreating back into Vietnam.

    Yes, we’ll always be in Iraq and the middle east.

  2. Plaintiff Guy on August 19, 2010 at 6:19 am said:

    In a firefight, a green berets job is to lay on the berm facing rear shooting mercenaries who run in the back.

  3. Ghost of Dude on August 19, 2010 at 8:17 am said:

    They aren’t mercenaries, PG, they’re the Iraqi national army. Now that they’ve recieved proper training and equipment, they’re a damned effective fighting force against the insurgency. My brother worked alongside some Iraqi SF guys going out and catching terrorists in 2006. Those guys knew their shit and didn’t run when the shooting started.
    My great uncle spent 3 years in Vietnam and Thailand as a Green Beret. He worked with the mountain tribes and had nothing but good things to say about them.

  4. Plaintiff Guy on August 19, 2010 at 11:05 am said:

    I hope you’re right Ghost. The US is a democracy and multinational forces are there to monitor. Let’s assume we’re hearing the truth.

    City Hall is not democracy and the mayor controls everything. Nobody monitors. There’s some truth but lies are common.

  5. The Department of Defense has submitted plans to keep a troop level of over 50,000 in Iraq for the next 20 years.

    It should be zero.

  6. Poly43 on August 19, 2010 at 3:03 pm said:

    Iraq. Afghanistan. Korea. Germany. Japan. Somehow we gotta have a Military Industrial Complex that costs 48% of the entire worlds budget on war and the machines it depends on.

  7. hosenpheffer on August 19, 2010 at 6:17 pm said:

    wake up. war is a business, make lots of money for yourself and your friends. isn’t that the american dream?

  8. Angry Guy on August 19, 2010 at 6:40 pm said:

    PG, you crazy fucker, you’re so narrow minded and selfishly caught up in whatever boring shit keeps you plowing through life that you’ve managed to compare the war in Iraq with our local government.


    I was going to follow your comment with a Big Lebowski reference about people dying face down in the muck… but that seems pointless now.

  9. Plaintiff Guy on August 19, 2010 at 7:32 pm said:

    Angry guy,

    City government is not democracy. The courts and the municipal league say so.

    Wait till you’re denied your day in court, you’re cited for something legal (over and over), you can’t present evidence, you can’t call witnesses, and you must testify against yourself. Wait till you experience obstruction of justice for 5 years while the city attorney makes shallow excuses or calls in sick. Then you’ll be angry, guy.

    Yes, I’m obsessed. You stand by and watch the city abuse citizens as a gladiator sport. I’m working double time to make up for those who ignore very serious constitutional violations.

  10. Angry Guy on August 19, 2010 at 7:38 pm said:

    …or maybe you should have paid the $200 fine and stopped wasting taxpayer money 5 years ago. Just a thought.

  11. Plaintiff Guy on August 19, 2010 at 7:48 pm said:

    It’s not taxpayer money, it’s Huether money. I’d pay but there’s 2 of him.

    You should go to work for the city. You’d be a good fascist.

  12. Angry Guy on August 19, 2010 at 7:52 pm said:

    I just call it like I see it… so all the money the city has burned over these 5 years fighting your cause is coming from where exactly? The Mayor’s pocket? I don’t think so.

  13. I’d be really happy if Iraq ended up like Japan or Germany or South Korea. Success.

  14. Plaintiff Guy on August 19, 2010 at 8:15 pm said:

    City budget is going toward fighting against the constitution. This is what will disturb taxpayers.

    From this case, they lost the camera case and they’re losing others. Properly hearing a case about $200 makes more sense than losing 10’s of millions hereafter.

  15. Nah, Winston Churchill was correct when he observed and wrote there is nothing worth fighting for in Iraq. Nothing.

  16. I agree Thad.

  17. Churchill was thinking in terms of a late 19th/early 20th century colonial empire. The type that subjugated colonies in order to extract resources for the industrialized home countries and sometimes used colonies as staging points to fight other empires. By that standard there is indeed nothign worth fighting over in Iraq.

    This is now.

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