Guest Post: Tea Party vs. Occupy (more to come)


1. One is top down leader structure, the other is bottom up leaderless

2. One is financed by billionaires, the other is broke with little money to continue

3. One excludes participants, the other takes all

4. One has support of mainstream media, the other is panned by media

5. One gets police protection, the other gets police pepper spray

6. One group gets to carry guns, the other gets guns pointed at them

7. One group rallies out of fear of the unknown, the other gathers to express faith in the system


#1 Andy Traub on 05.03.12 at 10:25 pm

What system is occupy supporting? Not a rhetorical ? (and I think the last sentence is missing “to”

#2 Lemming on 05.04.12 at 1:15 am

Quick Google on these ‘poor souls’ that represent the ‘Occupy’ movement and first one that pops up… (Duh! we all know what they are)

The criminals are crashing the party.

Lured by cheap drugs and free food, creepy thugs have infiltrated the crowd of protesters camped out in Zuccotti Park for Occupy Wall Street, The Post has learned.

“I got warrants. I’m running from the law,” boasted Dave, 24, a scrawny, unshaven miscreant in filthy clothes from Stamford, Conn. “I’m not even supposed to be here, but it’s as good a spot as any to hide.”

Wanted for burglary, the drug-addled fugitive said some of his hard-partying pals clued him in that the protest was a good place to be fed, get wasted and crash

No wonder your group gets guns pointed at them?

#3 Dave R on 05.04.12 at 10:31 am

One has “Rape Free” zones, the other is simply rape free.

One demands to be left alone, the other demands others provide for them.

One cleans up their trash, the other trashes their environment.

One rallies thousands of people in Sioux Falls, the other rallies four.

One has large rallies of law abiding people who don’t bother anyone, the other poops on police cars and organizes deliberate confrontation.

#4 Craig on 05.04.12 at 11:16 am

I get a little tired of the wide brush people use to paint the Occupy movements. We get it… they aren’t a cohesive group, they aren’t well organized, they have issues.

Guess what – so did the anti-war protests in the 70s. They still were able to get their message out, and they did influence policy. I must say I’m glad to see people who care and who are standing up and overwhelmingly stating they don’t want corporations to be defined as people. I’m glad someone is saying they want the money out of politics. I’m satisfied that someone is saying the widening gap between the 99% and the 1% is a problem. Sure people could just sit on their couch all day or bitch on the Internet, but these people are doing something about it whether we like it or not. I respect that.

Are there “bad” people who try to integrate into the occupy protests and events? Sure. Are there some crimes happening at those protests? Yep. Do some people leave their trash behind after an event? Obviously. However not every who shows up to church on Sunday morning is a Christian, and not everyone who attends an occupy rally is really an Occupier.

They don’t issue passes or tickets and they aren’t required to show a badge saying they belong there, so anyone can show up and make an ass out of themselves. They also don’t forcefully throw people out if they show up with a sign or T-shirt that the majority doesn’t approve of. There are no armed guards paid for by the Occupy people themselves, and they aren’t being funded by wealthy men who are sitting in offices full of mahogany paneling and leather covered couches.

This whole notion that the occupy people are a bunch of beatnik unshaven long hair hippies who are tripping on shrooms and wasting their day while drawing unemployment is unfair and dishonest. At least some of them are out there standing up for what they believe in – and they are starting to make a difference. They might promote some positions I don’t beleive in, but I respect the fact that many of them are just sitting on the sidelines and they are out there in force because they have a sincere desire to improve our nation.

A self-proclaimed Christian man who kills an abortionist due to his religious beliefs should not define Christianity.

A white man who kills a black man because of the color of his skin does not define all white men.

A man who uses a legally registered weapon to kill another man over an argument does not speak for the NRA.

A Priest or Pastor who sexually abuses children in their church does not speak for the religion.

And a person who hides out in an Occupy camp to avoid being arrested, or a person who uses it as excuse to party, or a person who engages in sexual assault or whatever other reason does not define the movement.

For the record I also support the Tea Party going out there and saying what they want to say, but just because some racists show up at their rallies with “Don’t Re-Nig” bumper stickers or holding signs that show images of Obama eating watermelon doesn’t mean the movement itself is racist.

People have the right to assemble and the right to protest. That is what makes America great. I don’t have to agree with them, but I surely respect them for standing up for what they believe. It is one thing to focus on the individual statements or actions of specific people, but to paint an entire movement as corrupt or dirty or unsafe is just petty.

#5 Guest Poster on 05.04.12 at 11:17 am

Laws are written for the fearful, to fall behind, to protect themselves from being exposed to people and things they do not wish to understand.

Fear is a power force and low information people have a hard time understanding the wider world.

Keep in touch, with l3wis’ permission we will be having more fun…

#6 testor15 on 05.04.12 at 12:07 pm

Nicely said Craig. I personally would not want to be part of a groupthink movement.

#7 l3wis on 05.04.12 at 6:01 pm

Well said Craig, I was going to say that ‘a couple of bad apples’ shouldn’t reflect on the rest of the crowd. Like I have told people, I don’t agree with the Tea Party, but there are some ideals I do agree with.

#8 D.E. Bishop on 05.04.12 at 9:33 pm

Dave and Lemming, how many Occupy rallies have you attended or even seen?

I’ve been at 4 different ones. I’ve stayed there for several hours. I haven’t seen anything you’ve mentioned. Do you think it just might be possible that the media have sensationalized any of it? Do you think it just might be possible that they didn’t use film of all the peacefulness, team spirit, unity, marching, sign-making, etc., because that might make for boring television? Or boring print articles?

You must search for more information. Simple headline crapola doesn’t tell you anything. I will be that both of you actually know that, but are grabbing for the information that fits your prejudices, which you’ve clearly displayed in your comments.

Craig is right, there are all kinds of people there. That is the kind of movement Occupy is. All kinds of people. That is what makes it dangerous to the 1%.

#9 D.E. Bishop on 05.04.12 at 9:34 pm

In the third paragraph, that sentence ought to say –
“I will BET that both…”