This was the analogy Mayor TenHaken gave at the State of the City address when a public event was suddenly hi-jacked by people who want to make a lot of cashola on the Riverline District.

To Poops credit he did make some admissions such as the difficulty of building housing in the area (he said people were not suggesting housing, even though I read most of the comments when the survey was live and there were many housing suggestions). He also brought up the natural springs in the area (without mentioning that building on top of them with permanent structures would be difficult). But where I had to giggle a bit was when Paul suggested that the comments about building a baseball stadium in the area were ‘Hot & Cold’.

Before we get to his lipstick job he applied to this very ugly pig, what made it even more amusing is Paul’s seemingly lack of gravitas when trying to sell the public on this. I read most of the comments, to say they were hot or cold isn’t untrue, but about 90% or more were pretty damn cold on the stadium idea.

UPDATE: I find the actual survey results in major conflict with the comments I read.

Over a year ago a citizen involved with community and neighborhood planning told me about a closed survey they sent out to a specific group. The link provided accidentally got shared with others and someone who wanted to see different results decided to have a little fun. The survey was filled out by the same IP address over 100 times. My point is, surveys can be fudged and are NOT scientific. I have yet to run into one single person who wants to see a new stadium built downtown.

There will be a privately funded economic impact study done soon and hopefully have results in July. Unfortunately this $200K private study will be funded by 20 private banking firms in South Dakota. What’s that saying about thumbs and scales?

Personally I think this would be a fantastic spot for a multi-story convention center with a green space attached that could be used for conventions. The obvious problem with this scenario is we already have a convention center and this would probably be a $100 million dollar project (funded by taxpayers). We could repurpose the current convention center as a rec center, but once again, where will the money come from?

I am all for the Riverline District, but I think the private investors and banksters can manage this all by their lonesome and if the city needs to put in a yield sign or a swing set, we can assist.

Poops says he doesn’t like the term legacy but pretty much wanted to make the Riverline Project his legacy. He may get it, and he may not like the results (think buckled siding, failed HVACs and Bunker Ramps).

I can almost guarantee if there is a proposal passed by the city council to bond for a multi-million dollar rec center or stadium, the signatures WILL be collected and it WILL go to a public vote which will need a 60% threshold to pass muster.

I guess the proposed pool bonds are rumored to be at or above $70 million.


Towards the end of the address, Poops recognizes Dawn Marie Johnson who is running for School Board with an election less then a month away. While I didn’t hear him mention she was running for school board, it certainly was dubious timing to recognize her accomplishments (during a public meeting funded by taxpayers). There are campaign rules about using public funds or venues to promote a candidacy. Just last year David Z was cut off at public input for violating those rules. Granted, I am unaware if Dawn knew he was going to do that, (and an attendee told me that he didn’t even see her there) and in no way is it a reflection on her or her campaign, but Paul seems to think he is some kind of king maker after the last city election. If I were Dawn, I would politely ask Mayor TenHaken to keep his endorsements to himself, she will do just fine on her own.

UPDATE II: Johnson was in attendance and took a photo with the mayor at the event that she posted to her social media page.


At the beginning of the SOC, Poops asked for people to eat up. Kind of confused that there would be any leftovers with all the reservations.

Public meetings are just that PUBLIC. Not only should there have been no muffins and coffee (unless paid for by a private donor) there certainly should NOT have been reservations. I was informed it was light grab and go pastries and the city did pay for them.

This also should have streamed in SIRE (city website meeting page),, CityLink, YouTube and Facebook. The media department has the technology to do this if they so choose. Heck, Dakotanewsnow even figured out how to stream it.

Also, public meetings (unless part of a pre-arranged presentation to the council or public input) are not a place for private investors to try to sell us on something we have no interest in buying. The SOC is a time for the mayor to share with the public the past and present accomplishments of city government and what the future holds, which PTH did do in between the school board endorsements, pie in the sky baseball stadium proposals, telling Jensen to stand up, looking for Tom Greco and trying to determine if a map is orange.

I will defend PTH on trying to utilize technology to reach out to the public, but shouldn’t this utilization come with more openness and transparency? Who am I kidding.

14 Thoughts on “UPDATE II: Comments on the Riverline District are ‘Hot & Cold’

  1. Very Stable Genius on April 17, 2023 at 11:12 am said:

    Wait a minute, he once gave Trump a B+, but now he doesn’t want a Trumper on the school board?… What’s changed?

  2. l3wis on April 17, 2023 at 1:07 pm said:

    When your opponent is endorsed by a militant group named after a potato chip style maybe an endorsement from the mayor isn’t so bad.

  3. Fear & Loathing in Sioux Falls on April 17, 2023 at 3:02 pm said:

    I think I know why they didn’t call it the Patriot Tortilla Effect. 🙂

    Oh, and Sunshine used to sell the best in-house brand of BBQ potato chips by the way. You couldn’t beat them back in the day. A course you could also get a Walnut Crush candy bar back then, too.

    I also think I know why they didn’t call themselves the Patriot Wavy Effect, because that might have sounded too you know what….. 🙁

  4. "Woodstock" on April 17, 2023 at 3:42 pm said:

    “I think I’ve told you guys this before, but I have a cousin who works for Pringles….. He spends all day just stacking chips”….

  5. scott on April 17, 2023 at 6:06 pm said:

    potato chips? there you go again, being disrespectful and calling people names!

  6. anominous on April 17, 2023 at 6:34 pm said:

    that would make a fine site for another privately owned go-kart business

  7. D@ily Spin on April 17, 2023 at 8:19 pm said:

    OMG, talk of another entertainment palace. Sure, build it downtown where it’s isolated without 4 lane public access and no parking. Oh, but there’s an empty parking tower 8 blocks away. Huh! But don’t forget the pretty bridges with little vehicle traffic beside the worst city slums. Have you seen the design for the 41st at I-29? It’s a Whirlygig that will have hourly accidents. It’ll be impossible to keep open for blizzards and require constant curbs repair. Why couldn’t this foolishness have ended with round abouts and tunnels?

    I get it now. The winner of this game makes the most mistakes. The acronym for city planning ia PON (Plain Old Nonsense).

  8. Theodore on April 18, 2023 at 10:16 am said:

    Reading between the lines a bit here: a stadium is happening.

  9. Scott D Hudson on April 18, 2023 at 12:19 pm said:

    Only SF would build a stadium for a minor league team so minor the league has no affiliation with a major league team. This is such a waste of money that even the couple of friends I have that go to these games can’t believe it’s even being considered.

  10. Theodore, well, that’s one comment, so I stand corrected. I’m waiting for the Lacrosse and bocce ball leagues to chime in.

  11. Further Fear & Loathing on April 18, 2023 at 12:32 pm said:

    A bocce ball league or leagues would fit in well with the whole “Mafia” theme around here. #DutchBocce?

  12. Scott D Hudson on April 18, 2023 at 5:52 pm said:

    I’m waiting for these wannabe hipster oldies to now want the city to jump on the pickleball bandwagon.

  13. scott on April 18, 2023 at 9:23 pm said:

    i thought pickle ball was mmm’s legacy. pth better not steal it!

  14. Theodore on April 19, 2023 at 10:04 am said:

    l3wis I’m not saying I’m for it, I’m just saying it seems like it’s going to happen. If they build it I will come to my regular 3 or 5 games a season, but I’d do that wherever they played.

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