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We may just get those snowgates after all

Mayor Mike promised to ‘experiment’ with snowgates during the campaign, something that has been long overdue. A friend of mine had a conversation with Mike about it the other day and he said he will budget to experiment with them. Something Staggers fought for his entire term on the council. The biggest argument against them was that they do not work, which is not the case. Many communities use them not only for 40 inches of snow, but for leaf removal from the streets (Cour De Lene, Idaho). I’m glad to see Mike will be taking on this endeavor.

Other things discussed were tree trimming in the boulevard and expanding Drake Springs Pool (since the city scaled back the main pool before building it) and I want to clarify this. In the original plans shown of Drake Springs Pool, the main pool was much larger, not sure why it was scaled back, but I’m sure ‘sour grapes’ had something to do with it. Mike said he will absolutely not expand the pool (which sounds reasonable because, quite frankly, it is too late and he has been chomping at the bit to build an indoor pool which I’m sure will be in the 2011 budget). And he seems to be confused about tree trimming, he sounded like he was under the impression that property owners have to take care of adjacent city property (and this is true according to city charter) but it still isn’t right considering the city is legally liable for the property. But since the constitutionality of code enforcement is in question now, the city may have no choice but to take care of their own property. They have no legal standing to fine you if you don’t trim their trees.

Snowgates. A matter of priorities?

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Theresa Stehly writes a great letter about the snowgates. But more importantly she touches on priorities;

The issue of cost concerning snow gates is about priorities. We spend hundreds of thousands of tax dollars each year on consultants. We spend millions of tax dollars each year on subsidies for facilities and special-interest projects that many citizens never will use. And sometimes we spend money on frills such as $33,000 for the city calendar last year and the $50,000 art wall at the Falls.

Trying a few snow gates for $18,000 and seeing for ourselves if they will help citizens make sense to me.

Trying new progressive ideas is what will keep Sioux Falls vibrant and strong as we work on customer service for all people.

I have often argued that it is more about public safety then anything (eliminating dangerous windrows). And even though the cost would be more for the city initially, it would probably SAVE citizens money in repairs to their autos. I once had to drop $75 to fix a power steering pump after getting my car trapped in a windrow.

Downtown Vernon BrownKnows respond to the snowgates issue on his website

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Vernon responds to all the ANON people out there;

Thank you for the comments on the snow gates posting. I especially appreciate Theresa Stehly courageously putting her name to her comments rather than doing it annonymously. Theresa and I recently had what I found to be a productive phone discussion about this issue and others. I respect her passion for this and other issues. Here are a couple follow-ups:

You stinky rotten ANON people, what do you know? Especially you Costner. Go dance with the wolves or something.

  • Further investigation – I committed to Theresa that I’d call the vendor she referenced. I placed that call Friday and left a message.

Yeah, and I had tea with the tooth fairy today. By the way, her unicorn says hi.

  • 40% increased cost – “Costner” asked how snow gates can add 40% to the cost of snow removal. This goes beyond the intial cost of equipment. It’s the extra time it takes to plow a street with the gates. Plow operators can’t go as fast with snow gates. The biggest expense in any snow removal is overtime, or in the case of the latest historic event, holiday pay. In that $1.8 million event, the snow gates would have cost an extra $720,000. However, the major point is that they wouldn’t work anyway. Vendors say up to 12 inches. In practice, it’s typically anything more than eight inches.

Actually several communities says it saves time, because you don’t have to go back and clean out windrows in intersections AND you don’t have to slow down to use snowgates. Did you watch the video? But more importantly this is about public safety and damage to vehicles. And furthermore some cities have used the gates in up to 30″ of snow. As for your fuzzy math, we can tell you are a marketing person and not an accountant.

  • Argus Story – For more on this issue click here to read a recent story. Note the quote from Bismarck’s assistant city administrator that snow gates don’t clear your driveway like you shoveled.

No they don’t, but instead of scooping 4 feet of snow out of the driveway, you scoop 4 inches. This last snowfall I went out with a shovel RIGHT AFTER  the snowplow came by. Some of it was so hard, I actually was throwing chunks of ice-snow the size of field rocks instead of scooping. This is assanine. I pay taxes to remove snow from my street, I don’t pay them to push that snow into my private drive.

I live on an emergency route. If anyone would love to have snow disappear from the end of my driveway, it’d be me. That is if they would truly work. I will continue the research. However, it is all about priorities and for me my priority would be to save the extra 40% for badly needed street repairs come spring. That’s where I see demand from citizens for more improved services.

So when is the city gonna start spending money on the streets instead of monkey crappers? Just wondering. Vernon, I don’t think snowgates would work on all the crap you spread. I’ll have all the ANON people clean it up.

The Snowgate Debate

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Theresa Stehly attended the City Council meeting last night to talk about snowgates. Obviously snowgates only are effective in 0-12″ of snow (which is most of our snowfalls) and would not have worked very well in the past storm ON ARTERIAL STREETS, but they would have been handy on the emergency snow routes. As you can see from the video, it doesn’t slow down plows either. Of course anti-snowgate Vernon Brown couldn’t resist to get in a game of he said she said with Stehly. Whether they work or not is not the argument here, what I can’t figure out is Brown’s resistance to experimenting with them, at least on emergency snow routes. He doesn’t have a problem with spending millions to build rhino barns at the zoo (something that has ZERO benefit to the public – ZERO!) but pisses and moans about spending a couple of grand on an experiment? This kind of prioritizing by Vernon tells you what kind of mayor he will make.